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Courier headline 'Safety is our No. 1 Priority'
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curryisforlife
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Courier headline 'Safety is our No. 1 Priority'
Yeah right, F**k off! Headline should say 'Getting the mail out as quick as we can, b***cks to safety, don't even care if you miss-deliver as long as you don't book, stop f**ckin whinging, is our No.1 Priority'.
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pinstripe
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Re: Courier headline 'Safety is our No. 1 Priority'
Very true, but you'll never get the job of headline writer.curryisforlife wrote:Yeah right, F**k off! Headline should say 'Getting the mail out as quick as we can, b***cks to safety, don't even care if you miss-deliver as long as you don't book, stop f**ckin whinging, is our No.1 Priority'.
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TeeferTiger
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Re: Courier headline 'Safety is our No. 1 Priority'
They only say that to cover their own backs.
When I had my AOD, I was wearing full PPE, WALKING down the path (I was going to cut across the grass but I didn't...), carrying a P739 (they had 6 parcels and I didn't think they were in as their car wasn't there and I wasn't unloading 6 parcels before I knocked on the door!!) and I slipped on the path and landed like a sack of spuds on my left hand side. "Luckily" it was a wide doorstep otherwise I'd have scraped all my face on the wall.
ANYWAY, while filling in the ERICA form etc, all the questions seemed to be towards catching me out, as if they were trying to find some way to say it was my fault but they couldn't.
Then, not long after, I had a letter from the area safety manager saying they were concerned that I'd had 2 AODs in 2 years. The first was I went over on my ankle and twisted my knee after walking on an uneven bit of pavement. I didn't go off sick but thought I'd best report it in case anything went wrong later on. The second was the one mentioned above.
They TELL you to report these things, the managers don't really want to because it means them doing some work, and then when you do report it, you get letters telling you to be more careful!!
WELL, if you didn't provide us with cr*p footwear (the old magnums that made you slip over at the mere mention of a path being vaguely damp) then I wouldn't have had the second AOD. The first was because the council hadn't bothered to maintain the path. Why do I need to be more careful?! I was only walking, like many other people do in their daily routine!
When I had my AOD, I was wearing full PPE, WALKING down the path (I was going to cut across the grass but I didn't...), carrying a P739 (they had 6 parcels and I didn't think they were in as their car wasn't there and I wasn't unloading 6 parcels before I knocked on the door!!) and I slipped on the path and landed like a sack of spuds on my left hand side. "Luckily" it was a wide doorstep otherwise I'd have scraped all my face on the wall.
ANYWAY, while filling in the ERICA form etc, all the questions seemed to be towards catching me out, as if they were trying to find some way to say it was my fault but they couldn't.
Then, not long after, I had a letter from the area safety manager saying they were concerned that I'd had 2 AODs in 2 years. The first was I went over on my ankle and twisted my knee after walking on an uneven bit of pavement. I didn't go off sick but thought I'd best report it in case anything went wrong later on. The second was the one mentioned above.
They TELL you to report these things, the managers don't really want to because it means them doing some work, and then when you do report it, you get letters telling you to be more careful!!
WELL, if you didn't provide us with cr*p footwear (the old magnums that made you slip over at the mere mention of a path being vaguely damp) then I wouldn't have had the second AOD. The first was because the council hadn't bothered to maintain the path. Why do I need to be more careful?! I was only walking, like many other people do in their daily routine!
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DGP1
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Re: Courier headline 'Safety is our No. 1 Priority'
All RMs safety priority seems to be to get rid of staff for not following everything to the letter.
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Spartacus
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Re: Courier headline 'Safety is our No. 1 Priority'
We had a director of RM at a branch reps meeting and he was driving this safety message big time, even going as far as saying that managements bonus will be related to the number of accidents in the units.
So when your DOM describes something as an incident rather than an accident you know why.
So when your DOM describes something as an incident rather than an accident you know why.
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bexhil palace
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Re: Courier headline 'Safety is our No. 1 Priority'
We were told recently that we should aspire to no accident in a year so that it reflects well on the unit.Spartacus wrote:We had a director of RM at a branch reps meeting and he was driving this safety message big time, even going as far as saying that managements bonus will be related to the number of accidents in the units.
So when your DOM describes something as an incident rather than an accident you know why.
Safety related to management bonuses, Hmmm,no i won't believe such a thing.
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brothermagrew
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Re: Courier headline 'Safety is our No. 1 Priority'
Or on the other hand
Unsafe and unsound
Instead of having a focus on identifying hazards and eliminating or reducing them, the emphasis of a behavioural safety programme is on getting workers to work around hazards that shouldn't be there in the first place. Workers are supposed to duck, dodge, lift safely, wear personal protective equipment... When a worker is injured, it is his or her fault for not working carefully enough. Discipline can become management's preferred response to worker injury.
Even in cases where a behavioural safety programmme is implemented with assurances that there will be no discipline, workers can face inquisitions when they report injuries to determine what "unsafe behaviours" they were engaging in. Workers avoid these inquisitions by ceasing to report accidents and injuries. When injuries aren't reported, hazards don't get identified or corrected.
There still appears to me to be in some areas of Royal Mail a culture still of blameworthiness against the employee rather than looking at the underlying and route causes that led up to an accident taking place.
Ask yourselves and your members/work colleagues one question: "Whose behaviour needs to be changed to improve health and safety at your workplace?" It's management behaviour that is putting workers' health and lives at risk, and management behaviour that must change in order to achieve safe and healthy workplaces.
In my opinion always worthy of a read - http://www.hazards.org/bs/hazardsbriefing.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Unsafe and unsound
Instead of having a focus on identifying hazards and eliminating or reducing them, the emphasis of a behavioural safety programme is on getting workers to work around hazards that shouldn't be there in the first place. Workers are supposed to duck, dodge, lift safely, wear personal protective equipment... When a worker is injured, it is his or her fault for not working carefully enough. Discipline can become management's preferred response to worker injury.
Even in cases where a behavioural safety programmme is implemented with assurances that there will be no discipline, workers can face inquisitions when they report injuries to determine what "unsafe behaviours" they were engaging in. Workers avoid these inquisitions by ceasing to report accidents and injuries. When injuries aren't reported, hazards don't get identified or corrected.
There still appears to me to be in some areas of Royal Mail a culture still of blameworthiness against the employee rather than looking at the underlying and route causes that led up to an accident taking place.
Ask yourselves and your members/work colleagues one question: "Whose behaviour needs to be changed to improve health and safety at your workplace?" It's management behaviour that is putting workers' health and lives at risk, and management behaviour that must change in order to achieve safe and healthy workplaces.
In my opinion always worthy of a read - http://www.hazards.org/bs/hazardsbriefing.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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TeeferTiger
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Re: Courier headline 'Safety is our No. 1 Priority'
Well said BM. When I had the first AOD, the manager tried to put me off reporting it. Luckily, with the second AOD, the CWU rep told me to also report it to the DWP and get it recorded as an industrial accident and the DWP did so.
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Himaggen
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Re: Courier headline 'Safety is our No. 1 Priority'
Here's my biggest problem with that safety sh*t they keep spouting, (and I'd be very happy if anyone can tell me I'm wrong here), is this:
It is not possible to deliver to every property without your finger(s) crossing the boundary between outside and inside of a letterbox opening!
They tell you that you are not allowed to do it, but there is no system, training or equipment in place which can show us how not to break this rule! How can anyone open a sprung inwards opening letterbox flap without their fingers crossing that boundary.
It is not possible to deliver to every property without your finger(s) crossing the boundary between outside and inside of a letterbox opening!
They tell you that you are not allowed to do it, but there is no system, training or equipment in place which can show us how not to break this rule! How can anyone open a sprung inwards opening letterbox flap without their fingers crossing that boundary.
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smokerjim
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Re: Courier headline 'Safety is our No. 1 Priority'
Especially a tightly sprung flap with a draught excluding "minge" on the other side, when you only have one skinny letter ( car tax reminder sort of thing ) or floppy d2ds!Himaggen wrote:Here's my biggest problem with that safety sh*t they keep spouting, (and I'd be very happy if anyone can tell me I'm wrong here), is this:
It is not possible to deliver to every property without your finger(s) crossing the boundary between outside and inside of a letterbox opening!
They tell you that you are not allowed to do it, but there is no system, training or equipment in place which can show us how not to break this rule! How can anyone open a sprung inwards opening letterbox flap without their fingers crossing that boundary.
I don't suppose your mouth bleeds every 28 days, does it?
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Pegman
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Re: Courier headline 'Safety is our No. 1 Priority'
My Father in law reads meters and sometimes has to post the read your own meter cards, he is given a plastic thing to clip the postcard into and push it through the letter box, totally impracticle for us, but he hasn't trapped a finger yet !!smokerjim wrote:Especially a tightly sprung flap with a draught excluding "minge" on the other side, when you only have one skinny letter ( car tax reminder sort of thing ) or floppy d2ds!Himaggen wrote:Here's my biggest problem with that safety sh*t they keep spouting, (and I'd be very happy if anyone can tell me I'm wrong here), is this:
It is not possible to deliver to every property without your finger(s) crossing the boundary between outside and inside of a letterbox opening!
They tell you that you are not allowed to do it, but there is no system, training or equipment in place which can show us how not to break this rule! How can anyone open a sprung inwards opening letterbox flap without their fingers crossing that boundary.
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