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Why can't we?

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number one
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Why can't we?

Post by number one »

Why is it that currently we are not competing fully in the door 2 door Market? I have seen over the past 6 months an increase of the door 2 doors that I am delivering are actually from TNT. Now surly we should be able to cut out the middle man (TNT) and go direct to the customer! This is just another way of TNT making money from piggy backing on us!
Night Tonic
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Re: Why can't we?

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They can do it cheaper, simple as that. This is why RML wants to lift the cap and not be tied to additional costs just for delivering them itself.
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Re: Why can't we?

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Night Tonic wrote:They can do it cheaper, simple as that. This is why RML wants to lift the cap and not be tied to additional costs just for delivering them itself.
They can do what cheaper? They do not deliver the crap, I would say the major part of any contract is the actually delivery of the stuff.
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Re: Why can't we?

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Night Tonic wrote:They can do it cheaper, simple as that. This is why RML wants to lift the cap and not be tied to additional costs just for delivering them itself.
How can they do it cheaper?
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Re: Why can't we?

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by being subsidised by us and hn gvmt
number one
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Re: Why can't we?

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How can they possibly do it cheaper? Let me just run this process by you.

Example:

pizza hut approach TNT to deliver 200,000 leaflets TNT say sure we will deliver them for you at a cost of £5k. Then TNT approach Royal Mail and ask how much to deliver 200,000 leaflets to which Royal mail say we can do that for £3k.

See the problem here?? Now this is just an example so before people start going on about the figures!
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Re: Why can't we?

Post by Night Tonic »

Sure, but think about it. RML is then faced with either accepting the business, or no business.
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Re: Why can't we?

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Do Royal Mail need the money to accept Doors to doors crap. As there is too much of it as part of their business plan.
number one
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Re: Why can't we?

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Well if we said no to TNT then they would not be able to deliver them so this goes straight back to where I started about cutting the middle man out and going straight to the customer. We need to get away from this false pretence that TNT are our customer!
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Re: Why can't we?

Post by jack straw »

Vote no, and get them around the table again. This time get something to our advantage. Yes, I know that is a novel idea for this union.
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Re: Why can't we?

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Night Tonic wrote:Sure, but think about it. RML is then faced with either accepting the business, or no business.

so why can't royal mail get the contract to deliver them for 3k, am i being a bit thick
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Re: Why can't we?

Post by BELIAL »

tiggle wrote:
Night Tonic wrote:Sure, but think about it. RML is then faced with either accepting the business, or no business.

so why can't royal mail get the contract to deliver them for 3k, am i being a bit thick
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number one
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Re: Why can't we?

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tiggle wrote:
Night Tonic wrote:Sure, but think about it. RML is then faced with either accepting the business, or no business.

so why can't royal mail get the contract to deliver them for 3k, am i being a bit thick
No your not being thick. It either one of two things.

1. We have very poor staff in the new business department who can't be arsed to go out and talk to these customers to generate new business.

Or

2. TNT get a special rate from Royal Mail due to them being a high sending customer sorry competitor!
eian687
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Re: Why can't we?

Post by eian687 »

simple TNT dont deliver it or mail
DSA means they can under cut us then get us to deliver it................ :crazy:
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Re: Why can't we?

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pickaname wrote:
How can they do it cheaper?
The great DSA fiddle, otherwise known as, let's fool the gullible British public into believing there's, harrrrummph, competition in the postal market.
It's nothing more than PPP, public-private-partnership, something I was once fooled into believing was being forced on RM, am absolutely convinced that just isn't the case.
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