When The agreement is officialy realeased,I think I will send a copy to The Plain English Campaign.
It is a Poorly written Document regardless of what is in the agreement.
Considering its come from the COMMUNICATIONS UNION,and its meant to be going to every member in the country to read it .
Its is full of words such as enabler ,to mean unlimited delivery time.(who came up with this phrase ,not the Dictionary meaning of the word )
The whole Document is full of gobbledygook, jargon and misleading information.
Also the Document is not complete.
The section on Standards,everyone being in the top 10% of what ?
To my reading the document presentation is as bad as its contents.
You would have expexted the COMMUNICATIONS UNION to produce a document that its average member can read easily and understand easily.
This document Really does deserve a award for being one of the worst documents in gobbledygook.
If the Document Was written in Plain English ,as it could easily be ,would the members not fully understand its contents and theirfore vote against it,but a nice complicated hard to understand document,that is recomended by Reps WILL GET VOTED YES!!
ANNOUNCEMENT : ALL OF ROYAL MAIL'S EMPLOYMENT POLICIES (AGREEMENTS) AT A GLANCE (Updated 2021)... HERE
ANNOUNCEMENT : PLEASE BE AWARE WE ARE NOT ON FACEBOOK AT ALL!
Plain English
-
Roy Mayall
- Posts: 236
- Joined: 10 Oct 2009, 16:46
- Gender: Male
Re: Plain English
Maybe we should have a go at doing a plain English version of it? It's already a satire anyway, we could turn it into a great comic novel in the tradition of PG Wodehouse complete with bumbling DOMs and out-of-touch union leaders.
-
dropbag_clone
- Posts: 106
- Joined: 13 Oct 2007, 10:43
Re: Plain English
Roy Mayall wrote:Maybe we should have a go at doing a plain English version of it? It's already a satire anyway, we could turn it into a great comic novel in the tradition of PG Wodehouse complete with bumbling DOMs and out-of-touch union leaders.
Anybody hazard a guess to what these terms mean:
biggest fulfilment provider
fulfilment market
Have they some kind of sexual undercurrents?
-
baldrick
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 5038
- Joined: 13 Sep 2007, 23:37
- Gender: Male
Re: Plain English
Best ask DGP1 and Dvbuk that.dropbag_clone wrote:
Anybody hazard a guess to what these terms mean:
biggest fulfilment provider
fulfilment market
Have they some kind of sexual undercurrents?
-
goochy
- Posts: 7
- Joined: 29 Jan 2010, 19:14
- Gender: Male
Re: Plain English
The words MAJORITY and VAST MAJORITY occur frequently in the agreement.
MAJORITY is defined as more than half so when a condition applies to the majority of staff it might only apply to 51%.
Consequently, the condition might not apply to 49% of those staff.
So 'Royal Mail and CWU commit to achieving at least one in four Saturdays off for the majority of the employees' could be interpreted as 'Royal Mail and CWU will make no effort to provide more Saturdays off for 49% of the employees'.
And how should VAST MAJORITY be quantified - 66% or 75% or 90%?
Why don't our national negotiators replace these imprecise words with numerical values that make life easier for the office reps on the front-line.
Give us NUMBERS not the nonsense that is the English language!
MAJORITY is defined as more than half so when a condition applies to the majority of staff it might only apply to 51%.
Consequently, the condition might not apply to 49% of those staff.
So 'Royal Mail and CWU commit to achieving at least one in four Saturdays off for the majority of the employees' could be interpreted as 'Royal Mail and CWU will make no effort to provide more Saturdays off for 49% of the employees'.
And how should VAST MAJORITY be quantified - 66% or 75% or 90%?
Why don't our national negotiators replace these imprecise words with numerical values that make life easier for the office reps on the front-line.
Give us NUMBERS not the nonsense that is the English language!
-
DGP1
- Posts: 15551
- Joined: 07 Jun 2007, 20:39
- Gender: Male
- Location: Terminus
Re: Plain English
baldrick wrote:Best ask DGP1 and Dvbuk that.dropbag_clone wrote:
Anybody hazard a guess to what these terms mean:
biggest fulfilment provider
fulfilment market
Have they some kind of sexual undercurrents?
I'm preparing myself for the zombie invasion, rule number 1 - Cardio
-
TrueBlueTerrier
- FORUM ADMINISTRATOR
- Posts: 72713
- Joined: 30 Dec 2006, 10:29
- Gender: Male
- Location: On my couch
Re: Plain English
Biggest Fulfilment providerdropbag_clone wrote:
Anybody hazard a guess to what these terms mean:
biggest fulfilment provider
fulfilment market
Fulfilment market

if the leak is anything to go by.
All post by me in Green are Admin Posts.
Any post in any other colour is my own responsibility.
If you like a news story I posted please click the link to show support Any news stories you can't post - PM me with a link
My sharing of news articles should not be interpreted as an endorsement or condemnation of any particular viewpoint or the issues presented. I share them solely for informational purposes.
Any post in any other colour is my own responsibility.
If you like a news story I posted please click the link to show support Any news stories you can't post - PM me with a link
My sharing of news articles should not be interpreted as an endorsement or condemnation of any particular viewpoint or the issues presented. I share them solely for informational purposes.