PARK AND LOOP BEING INTRODUCED IN JANUARY, WHAT CHANGES?

[tragictramp]

My office is to introduce initially trial the park and loop system in january, with 1 van 2 postman doing 2 walks,packets specials etc..

what changes will be made? i can imagine all walks would have to be changed to match the system and possible re-picks etc, most of the posties i work with are not trained or would not want to be trained to drive the vans including me, i am on a part time contract just 24 hrs - how would i be able to work within this system?

[Pegman]

Our bike repairer has been told that the bikes arre being phased out in our office from January too.

We have discussed this and honestly can't see it working, if you have two people and one van looping, one will always be waiting aroound for the other, different parts of the same street can have varying volumes of mail, packets, recordeds, and what happens when like on one of our walks one has 80 flats and on the other side of the road there are only 10 houses.

[slinger]

We already do it for a couple of rounds in a shared van, but it's coming in with a few more rounds in the new year and tbh the one we have actually works; both drivers have a van key each and it's not often you are waiting for the other, as there's always a packet or two that can be driven to and delivered if your section isn't as busy as your colleague. It's good banter to be out with someone else, rather than being on your own the whole day - but that's each to their own and not everyone will like that. Issues arise when you have 2 people on it though that don't work to the same speed or like minded in that sense - either in office or out on delivery, also if the two people don't get on is another!!

I actually quite like it, but that's just me personally.

Re - 24 hour PTers just work your hours and that's all you can do unless you want to go over.

[antcpfc]

I can see a few reports in the paper of "going postal".There are plenty of people in my office I struggle to say hello to.The thought of spending 40 hours a week with them......

[jockstrapp]

I can see a few reports in the paper of "going postal".There are plenty of people in my office I struggle to say hello to.The thought of spending 40 hours a week with them......

Ditto............worsed bunch of backstabbing shitbags I've ever worked with and the manager is a f#cking bawless nonentity

[krussel]

I used to do a van share thing years ago on a rural.
The walks were one hell of a lot easier then but it was nice to chat to someone there and back. I think I would not mind sharing again but this 2 men doing 3 walks would be a killer.

Guess we have to wait and see but its taking me 5 hours to get around at the moment so I hope it cant get any worse.

[bandit650]

How are they going to decide who works with with who,if they started to do this in our office i can just imagine what would go on we have'nt got enough vans to go round now,you know when you have been out testing a delivery because you have had a slightly different view of a delivery than a manager, the guy who did the job had been attacked and had stuff taken off the bike,you come to the conclusion that it should have been done in a van in the first place,of course they have taken all the spare vans away and now we have a daily argument with them because there is no van,so to then come up with park and loop it would be laughable,another thought where do you park in some of these places my own delivery has now been turned over to pay and display,the council saw an opening to make more money so they put parking meters in so now where there were some free 4 hour bays they have now been reduced to 2 hours or turned into pay and display,i do feel that this is another unthought,unplanned cock up coming our way.

[tragictramp]

I was just after peoples experiences really, can they change my working hours without me agreeing?.

[steve1986]

been doing park and loop for over a year now its a nightmare some days and yes you do end up waiting for each other all the time and you dont get to choose who you work with which is causing lots of personel problems but management dont care

[dvbuk55]

I was just after peoples experiences really, can they change my working hours without me agreeing?.

No.

[prowler]

I can see a few reports in the paper of "going postal".There are plenty of people in my office I struggle to say hello to.The thought of spending 40 hours a week with them......

Ditto............worsed bunch of backstabbing shitbags I've ever worked with and the manager is a f#cking bawless nonentity

Nice one Jock!

[Big Daz]

Our bike repairer has been told that the bikes arre being phased out in our office from January too.

We have discussed this and honestly can't see it working, if you have two people and one van looping, one will always be waiting aroound for the other, different parts of the same street can have varying volumes of mail, packets, recordeds, and what happens when like on one of our walks one has 80 flats and on the other side of the road there are only 10 houses.

Youve hit the nail on the head, HQ whilst having no in principle objection to the concept of park and loop certainly have a different idea from RML on how it should work. There was a LTB about this earlier in the year, well worth another read.

[royalmailchat]

January: Two men, One van, TWO Deliverys . April: One man, One van, Two Deliverys, No Sorting Or Prep.

[paulsmd]

I have been doing park & loop now for one year. I would not want to go back the way we use to do it.
This is a lot better way to do the job,In our office we have about ten postmen doing it this way,none of them would want to go back to the old way of working. So what I`am saying is don`t knock it until you try it. I will say it take about two weeks to get the hang of doing it this new way.

[royalmailchat]

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