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graduate managers
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rowdogg
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graduate managers
whats your view on graduate managers in rm???
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rowdogg
- Posts: 86
- Joined: 27 Sep 2008, 16:13
- Gender: Male
Re: graduate managers
better or worse than ex posties that are now managers??/
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TrueBlueTerrier
- FORUM ADMINISTRATOR
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- Joined: 30 Dec 2006, 10:29
- Gender: Male
- Location: On my couch
Re: graduate managers
I think to be honest they have to be given a chance. Perhaps new blood would help improve things but............................
they should not walk in thinking because they have been on a course they know everything. Just like a good postie starting out, they should keep their mouths shut and their ears open. Meaning learn about the job, the culture and the people first - then improve things if you can.
Unfortunately, most graduates believe they know what Management is about and then when they come up against a strong unionised work force, or even just one bolshie postie they have no experience, except the playground, to fall back on and it goes down hill from there.
I will give everyone of whatever position a chance to prove themselves, its a distinct pity that most, though not all, in RM Management have disapointed me to varying degrees.
they should not walk in thinking because they have been on a course they know everything. Just like a good postie starting out, they should keep their mouths shut and their ears open. Meaning learn about the job, the culture and the people first - then improve things if you can.
Unfortunately, most graduates believe they know what Management is about and then when they come up against a strong unionised work force, or even just one bolshie postie they have no experience, except the playground, to fall back on and it goes down hill from there.
I will give everyone of whatever position a chance to prove themselves, its a distinct pity that most, though not all, in RM Management have disapointed me to varying degrees.
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tailfly12
- Posts: 199
- Joined: 30 Jun 2009, 12:09
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Re: graduate managers
The expostmen turned managers are the worst. They think when they get the stripes on the shoulder they can do anything. Like where scum and I'm a manager now.
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pinstripe
- Posts: 2473
- Joined: 25 May 2007, 16:42
- Gender: Male
- Location: 2 left turns from reality
Re: graduate managers
I'm with Teebs on this one. I'll give anyone the chance, but I haven't been surprised yet. Perhaps it is the types of manager that RM are recruiting, young, inexperienced and convinced they know everything, especially when proved wrong. The problem with graduate managers is they have no experience of life, much less work.
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DirtyHarry
- Posts: 5051
- Joined: 13 May 2007, 23:16
- Gender: Male
- Location: London
Re: graduate managers
w*****s.rowdogg wrote:whats your view on graduate managers in rm???
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tailfly12
- Posts: 199
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Re: graduate managers
Dirtyharry you took the words out of my mouth. Ha Ha
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DirtyHarry
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- Location: London
Re: graduate managers
tailfly12 wrote:Dirtyharry you took the words out of my mouth. Ha Ha
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poopongjockmcploop
- MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
- Posts: 22
- Joined: 23 Jul 2009, 11:41
- Gender: Male
Re: graduate managers
since when does reading french qualify u to be a rm manager?
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k979aaa
- Posts: 12578
- Joined: 03 Sep 2007, 19:14
- Gender: Male
- Location: THE NORTH
Re: graduate managers
Maybe they ship them all off to france have a knees up and F*CK THIER POSTAL SERVICE UP TOO!.poopongjockmcploop wrote:since when does reading french qualify u to be a rm manager?
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steven100
- Posts: 1391
- Joined: 09 Aug 2009, 12:35
- Gender: Male
Re: graduate managers
A good manager has to have one thing "COMMON SENSE", something lacking in todays managers. Maybe its orders from above :cfo :lfo
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stokes11eg
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 3077
- Joined: 20 Nov 2008, 12:51
- Gender: Female
Re: graduate managers
in the College room, rather than the shop floor.British Industry has hit skid row. Bring back the old days, when bosses worked their way up over several years.
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poopongjockmcploop
- MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
- Posts: 22
- Joined: 23 Jul 2009, 11:41
- Gender: Male
Re: graduate managers
as long as they dont follow the old school and learn the bad habits or "the glasgow way"! 
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BIG AL
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 79
- Joined: 12 Oct 2007, 15:02
- Location: at home
Re: graduate managers
Totally agree with you,steven100 wrote:A good manager has to have one thing "COMMON SENSE", something lacking in todays managers. Maybe its orders from above :cfo :lfo
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mailsort6
- Posts: 356
- Joined: 11 Aug 2007, 13:22
Re: graduate managers
Graduate managers are like the rest of the managers a load of rubbish they do not know anything about efficiency and effectiveness most managers at RM have never work at any other companies (most of the ex-posties that are managers now were postal cadets) and most graduate managers have just come straight from university. Sometimes managers can come up with some incoherent ideas that a real manager would just laugh at, I am not surprise at the situation RM is in, we should have the world's greatest postal system and no one should be able to touch us but because of incompetance and lack of management techiques and strategies our postal system is at it knees and the only way to save it is to take a good look at the management.