ANNOUNCEMENT : ALL OF ROYAL MAIL'S EMPLOYMENT POLICIES (AGREEMENTS) AT A GLANCE (Updated 2021)... HERE

ANNOUNCEMENT : PLEASE BE AWARE WE ARE NOT ON FACEBOOK AT ALL!

Had an accident and would like some advice.

Postal workers discussion forum. Discuss the day to day life in a Blue Shirt.
greynut
Posts: 334
Joined: 09 Nov 2007, 15:36
Location: Shitsville

Had an accident and would like some advice.

Post by greynut »

Yesterday, I came off my bike going around a corner.

I have damaged my wrist, leg and shoulder. I lost my mobile in the confusion therefore could not phone work. I wanted someone to come and get me and take my last bag from me.
I decided to complete my duty in pain. My last bag taking me over 1 1/2 hours. Now, I got home and tried to ring the delivery office. No one picked up the phone all day. I managed to get someone I know to phone another line manager for me to tell them I would not be in today due to injury. I got a call this morning at 8.45 telling me I MUST come in and fill in an accident report. HOW do I do that . I cant drive, write or walk very far and the DO is 8 miles away. If I had been in a coma would they have asked me to come in???

Whats the situation here. Common sense says that when the injuries are better I can get in but to make me go in is in my view ludicrous? :silenced :arrrghhh
johnnyp
Posts: 5239
Joined: 27 Jan 2007, 16:00
Gender: Male
Location: SE ENGLAND

Re: Had an accident and would like some advice.

Post by johnnyp »

Ring your Dom ASAP(ours has his own number with answer machine)and if he answers get him to ring you back,and fill in the Erica form over the phone telling him what happened,i done this myself not so long ago so dont take no for an answer.
stokes11eg
EX ROYAL MAIL
Posts: 3077
Joined: 20 Nov 2008, 12:51
Gender: Female

Re: Had an accident and would like some advice.

Post by stokes11eg »

johnnyp wrote:Ring your Dom ASAP(ours has his own number with answer machine)and if he answers get him to ring you back,and fill in the Erica form over the phone telling him what happened,i done this myself not so long ago so dont take no for an answer.
:nana Just ask your D.M to send you the form, they did this with me, so they can do it with everyone else.also, as I said on another link,advise D.W.P about this accident as it will entitle you to extra money, should you be of long term.
good Luck.
bogstandard
Posts: 1074
Joined: 08 Nov 2007, 06:16

Re: Had an accident and would like some advice.

Post by bogstandard »

i'm sure brother magrew would be more accurate, although i feel you would need to offer them the opportunity to collect you and bring you into work and return you home or come to your house or possibly another agreed venue to fill out the froms if you are not i a position to attend your work premises under your own steam.

from previous experiance sign your name (if you are required to do so) directly after the full stop at the end of your statement.
Had a bloke some years ago now have his LM come out to his house fill out the accident form. on his return he inspected the form for some reason or another to see that the line manager had added at the end that this bloke accepted that it was his fault and would be more careful in the future.
He went to the HSE to tell them that his statement had been altered and they said you can't write over it or change it,as it is a leagel document, to which he pointed out that what is there is not what he had signed to and they told him he could add a note to the form stating this but no more. He pointed out that this legal document had been altered without his knowledge or agreement and was not a true account but they told him "we've told you what you are allowed to do.
So my friend be careful.
Confused... You won't be, after the next episode of. SOAP
the undertaker
Posts: 93
Joined: 08 Jun 2007, 17:13
Gender: Male
Location: south east

Re: Had an accident and would like some advice.

Post by the undertaker »

Tell your Dom (ignore the Line Manager) to send you the Erica accident form via 1st class post. When you have filled in the form, return it to Dom with your Doctors sick note (keep copy's of everything) Do not attend your Dly Office until you have a Doctors return to work certificate, Ensure your Doctor states "light duties" on subsequent certificates until you are fully recovered.
As this was an accident at work you are entitled to Full Pay.
BE Firm with Management, DO NOT ALLOW them to BULLY YOU, TAKE COMFORT from the fact that the vast majority of RM Managers are of little intelligence.
You are fully protected by RM, CWU and HSE.
Ask the Dom, Why was the office phone not manned? Where were the Line Managers, Shopping, At home, In the pub, Sleeping?
It is their DUTY to ensure that the office phone is manned.
Was your cycle at fault? Had it been correctly serviced. Was the road uneven or slippery? This must be risk assessed.
Under no circumstances accept any nonsense from them, They make the rules, You must apply them.
5 Kilo Man
brothermagrew
Posts: 3015
Joined: 06 Aug 2007, 16:38
Gender: Male
Location: Shares a border with England to the south.

Re: Had an accident and would like some advice.

Post by brothermagrew »

I defer to the knowledgable postings of the CWU brothers and sisters. But would suggest that if you haven't read it, see CWU website LTB328/09.
"Today’s workplace has become heartless and soulless. Employees are seen as units of labour, automatons, functionaries, objects for achieving designated tasks, and as costs to be minimised."
k979aaa
Posts: 12578
Joined: 03 Sep 2007, 19:14
Gender: Male
Location: THE NORTH

Re: Had an accident and would like some advice.

Post by k979aaa »

And make sure they put it in the accident book (ERICA) and consider regeristing it with the DDS!. And when you get invited for a stage warning you will trust me make sure the note's are correct and they don't use incident in the place of accident.
greynut
Posts: 334
Joined: 09 Nov 2007, 15:36
Location: Shitsville

Re: Had an accident and would like some advice.

Post by greynut »

Many many thanks for all the advice.

I did just what you all said.

I questioned why I should make my way to the office considering I was injured. So they did the ERICA over the phone. :roll:

Thanks again for your posts. Helped me alot. Oh yes, i also told them that the DO number was wrong and that I could not contact them and lo and behold the reply was, "Oh yes, the number changed 5, yes 5, years ago. We haven t updated Royal Mails website yet." :arrrghhh
TeeferTiger
EX ROYAL MAIL
Posts: 2783
Joined: 22 Dec 2008, 13:56
Gender: Female
Location: Welsh Wales

Re: Had an accident and would like some advice.

Post by TeeferTiger »

You shouldn't get a stage warning after an AOD... I dunno whether you do if they deem it was your fault though.
Does this rag smell of chloroform to you?
brothermagrew
Posts: 3015
Joined: 06 Aug 2007, 16:38
Gender: Male
Location: Shares a border with England to the south.

Re: Had an accident and would like some advice.

Post by brothermagrew »

Aren't employees also entitled to receive from their manager a copy of the original printed off ERICA Incident Report as was the case with the old Accident Books?
"Today’s workplace has become heartless and soulless. Employees are seen as units of labour, automatons, functionaries, objects for achieving designated tasks, and as costs to be minimised."
andy2007
Posts: 3971
Joined: 14 Sep 2007, 10:16
Gender: Male
Location: Earth

Re: Had an accident and would like some advice.

Post by andy2007 »

brothermagrew wrote:Aren't employees also entitled to receive from their manager a copy of the original printed off ERICA Incident Report as was the case with the old Accident Books?
Yes. In fact, they HAVE TO send you a copy to sign, to confirm that it's accurate. If there isn't a copy signed by you, on file. There could be repercussions, should you need to claim against RM. How else would anyone know that the details haven't been altered?
Just look at what happened to Bogstandard's Collegue. :hmmmm
Don't knock Insanity
it's just another outlook on Reality!