POAL

[hero22]

Has anyone heard any further updates on POAL ? HR told me about discussions taking place, our manager seems clueless apart from he won’t allow anyone to book the 6th week for 2026/27 holidays unless your length of service entitles you to 6 weeks.

Seems discussions between company and union on any topic take a fecking eternity to sort out

[yellowbelly]

Has anyone heard any further updates on POAL ? HR told me about discussions taking place, our manager seems clueless apart from he won’t allow anyone to book the 6th week for 2026/27 holidays unless your length of service entitles you to 6 weeks.

Seems discussions between company and union on any topic take a fecking eternity to sort out

Answer is no. I'm sure there'll be an announcement from RM and CWU when a way forward is identified. Neither RM nor CWU can sanction something that would potentially break the NLW rules.

[rogersh]

This was a response from HR 0n 06/01/2026

Thanks for getting back to us.

You can still apply for any POAL you want via your manager but it wont show on your 2026/2027 leave card as the Business and Unions are currently in discussions on a way forward for this.

Our intention is to be able to update further in the coming weeks.

Hoping this helps with your enquiry

[N|M]

Do they include supplements and other payments as your wage or is it just the basic wage ?

[ted_e_bear]

Do they include supplements and other payments as your wage or is it just the basic wage ?

Iirc that's been brought up/pointed out previously and the answer was no it's only your basic

[N|M]

Sure it would be easy to add something to pay slips that did the maths:

Basic hr wage
Minus, ( - )
Min wage,
Times, ( x )
Contracted hr's,
Equals ( = ) available money to spend on salary sacrifice.

For someone on 35 hrs they need around £15 per week for 2 extra weeks under POAL

[ted_e_bear]

Sure it would be easy to add something to pay slips that did the maths:

Basic hr wage
Minus, ( - )
Min wage,
Times, ( x )
Contracted hr's,
Equals ( = ) available money to spend on salary sacrifice.

For someone on 35 hrs they need around £15 per week for 2 extra weeks under POAL

I've had a better, much simpler idea, although it's a bit controversial, how about giving the new contracts a pay rise eh ?

Incidentally for someone on the initial under 5 years service the deduction to uplift 4.5 weeks up to 6 is 3% weekly just goes to show how close our new contract pay is to min wage

[2chorizon]

They are going to pull it.

They will wait until well into february to announce it leaving no time for any challenges as POAL needs to be completed by feb 28th.

Union are in on it.

[TopperGas]

They are going to pull it.

They will wait until well into february to announce it leaving no time for any challenges as POAL needs to be completed by feb 28th.

Union are in on it.

How can it be challenged if POAL takes an employee below the MWW there's nothing RM can do about it, apart from give everyone a pay rise and we all know that's never going to happen.

[postmanplod2025]

i think ur right mate all devious sneeky stuff going on no letting anyone book POAL thats nasty

[hero22]

Will just provoke people to take more sick time if they do that

[Sean06]

Will just provoke people to take more sick time if they do that

An lose alot of money.after 1st sick.

[Sean06]

They are going to pull it.

They will wait until well into february to announce it leaving no time for any challenges as POAL needs to be completed by feb 28th.

Union are in on it.

And your source is??

[TopperGas]

i think ur right mate all devious sneeky stuff going on no letting anyone book POAL thats nasty

Surely it would be worse to let staff book it then tell them they can't have it?

[2chorizon]

i think ur right mate all devious sneeky stuff going on no letting anyone book POAL thats nasty

Surely it would be worse to let staff book it then tell them they can't have it?

& then claim they have “flights booked” & demand it

you know the score.