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WTF is really going on?
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scotchy1962
- EX ROYAL MAIL
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WTF is really going on?
Does anyone have a clue, the dom/dims don't seem to, neither do the union, i most certainly don't and from what i read on here on various topics neither do any of you.
A business is meant to have a clear forward thinking yearly plan which leads to a certain outcome, hopefully profitable but not necessarily as long as it is in the long term.
None of these appear to apply to RM, or am i missing something?
I don't really give a feck as i approach retirement, but i figure some of you guys/gals might be interested as it's your future.
Also the union, is it a dead duck or does it have a future as a meaningful power for the workers or just a company lackie, merely getting lip service from RM.
A business is meant to have a clear forward thinking yearly plan which leads to a certain outcome, hopefully profitable but not necessarily as long as it is in the long term.
None of these appear to apply to RM, or am i missing something?
I don't really give a feck as i approach retirement, but i figure some of you guys/gals might be interested as it's your future.
Also the union, is it a dead duck or does it have a future as a meaningful power for the workers or just a company lackie, merely getting lip service from RM.
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guardianangel
- Posts: 1834
- Joined: 21 Feb 2020, 19:40
- Gender: Male
Re: WTF is really going on?
I try not to think about it really ,go in on time do my tracked and half my walk go home on time until directed differently,collect my wage for an easy week while the company lose money with their hair brained schemes,get a couple more years in and im home and dry.
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kazardaimenu
- Posts: 1391
- Joined: 13 Apr 2022, 19:11
- Gender: Male
Re: WTF is really going on?
It would be nice to work with the company to help achieve the best possible outcomes for them and us which would increase productivity and revenue for them and put a few extra pounds in our pockets. Unfortunately that doesn’t seem possible right now and the toxic environment continues.
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rubberbond
- Posts: 1497
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- Gender: Male
Re: WTF is really going on?
Sadly it has always been that way and I doubt it will ever change, especially with the brain dead management class we have to work under.kazardaimenu wrote: ↑24 Mar 2024, 17:57It would be nice to work with the company to help achieve the best possible outcomes for them and us which would increase productivity and revenue for them and put a few extra pounds in our pockets. Unfortunately that doesn’t seem possible right now and the toxic environment continues.
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yellowbelly
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Re: WTF is really going on?
Management (those that I see at local level) are purely reactive to day to day situations with no attempts to improve anything evenkazardaimenu wrote: ↑24 Mar 2024, 17:57It would be nice to work with the company to help achieve the best possible outcomes for them and us which would increase productivity and revenue for them and put a few extra pounds in our pockets. Unfortunately that doesn’t seem possible right now and the toxic environment continues.
when suggested by colleagues on the shop floor.
Any changes that are implemented come down from high level based on spreadsheets and data and with hardly any
reference to the local situation and invariably make things worse. Furthermore, when those bad changes are implemented there's
no review to see if there's been an improvement.
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derekm
- Posts: 340
- Joined: 16 Dec 2010, 22:17
- Gender: Male
Re: WTF is really going on?
scared to make decisions incase upstairs doesn't like it & they get there a@se kickedyellowbelly wrote: ↑24 Mar 2024, 18:51Management (those that I see at local level) are purely reactive to day to day situations with no attempts to improve anything evenkazardaimenu wrote: ↑24 Mar 2024, 17:57It would be nice to work with the company to help achieve the best possible outcomes for them and us which would increase productivity and revenue for them and put a few extra pounds in our pockets. Unfortunately that doesn’t seem possible right now and the toxic environment continues.
when suggested by colleagues on the shop floor.
Any changes that are implemented come down from high level based on spreadsheets and data and with hardly any
reference to the local situation and invariably make things worse. Furthermore, when those bad changes are implemented there's
no review to see if there's been an improvement.
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Jb1969
- Posts: 387
- Joined: 29 May 2014, 13:06
- Gender: Male
Re: WTF is really going on?
New Management are young inexperienced Graduates, they are yes men/women.They have no clue as to what is in a duty.
What they do have is a spreadsheet & figures that tell them what they are asking is possible.
They have a budget which they must keep too, regardless of quality of service.
RM top Management don’t give a crap about quality of service, they have saved millions by reducing it & given a paltry 5.7 million fine.
The new employees are not staying, the vehicles are shot, held together with tape & it’s becoming embarrassing to state you work for RM.
Come June 17th it’s going to get worse.
What they do have is a spreadsheet & figures that tell them what they are asking is possible.
They have a budget which they must keep too, regardless of quality of service.
RM top Management don’t give a crap about quality of service, they have saved millions by reducing it & given a paltry 5.7 million fine.
The new employees are not staying, the vehicles are shot, held together with tape & it’s becoming embarrassing to state you work for RM.
Come June 17th it’s going to get worse.
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ted_e_bear
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- Joined: 03 Sep 2012, 19:37
- Gender: Male
Re: WTF is really going on?
Spot on, we've had quite a few "managers" over the years and it's difficult to recall anything vaguely proactive that any of them have done.yellowbelly wrote: ↑24 Mar 2024, 18:51Management (those that I see at local level) are purely reactive to day to day situations with no attempts to improve anything evenkazardaimenu wrote: ↑24 Mar 2024, 17:57It would be nice to work with the company to help achieve the best possible outcomes for them and us which would increase productivity and revenue for them and put a few extra pounds in our pockets. Unfortunately that doesn’t seem possible right now and the toxic environment continues.
when suggested by colleagues on the shop floor.
Any changes that are implemented come down from high level based on spreadsheets and data and with hardly any
reference to the local situation and invariably make things worse. Furthermore, when those bad changes are implemented there's
no review to see if there's been an improvement.
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Barnacle
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- Location: Earth
Re: WTF is really going on?
What horror happens on June 17th?Jb1969 wrote: ↑24 Mar 2024, 19:24New Management are young inexperienced Graduates, they are yes men/women.They have no clue as to what is in a duty.
What they do have is a spreadsheet & figures that tell them what they are asking is possible.
They have a budget which they must keep too, regardless of quality of service.
RM top Management don’t give a crap about quality of service, they have saved millions by reducing it & given a paltry 5.7 million fine.
The new employees are not staying, the vehicles are shot, held together with tape & it’s becoming embarrassing to state you work for RM.
Come June 17th it’s going to get worse.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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Jb1969
- Posts: 387
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- Gender: Male
Re: WTF is really going on?
Most Aircraft stop & the later starts if you are one of them kick in.Barnacle wrote: ↑24 Mar 2024, 19:36What horror happens on June 17th?Jb1969 wrote: ↑24 Mar 2024, 19:24New Management are young inexperienced Graduates, they are yes men/women.They have no clue as to what is in a duty.
What they do have is a spreadsheet & figures that tell them what they are asking is possible.
They have a budget which they must keep too, regardless of quality of service.
RM top Management don’t give a crap about quality of service, they have saved millions by reducing it & given a paltry 5.7 million fine.
The new employees are not staying, the vehicles are shot, held together with tape & it’s becoming embarrassing to state you work for RM.
Come June 17th it’s going to get worse.
The mail will be moved around the country by road instead.
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Shirtbuttons
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 292
- Joined: 06 Sep 2020, 14:46
- Gender: Male
Re: WTF is really going on?
This made me laugh, what most do not realise is people just do not care anymore. They have been broken. What future?
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Post69
- Posts: 195
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Re: WTF is really going on?
I think the network moves away from aircraft and it all going by road? The question “WTF is really going on” is the question I’ve been asking myself for best part of 18 months and I’m to in the twilight of my working career and I’ve been in this company for knocking on 40 years and the management in Royal Mail have always been quite a bit inept but this new breed are on a different level of inept and arroganceBarnacle wrote: ↑24 Mar 2024, 19:36What horror happens on June 17th?Jb1969 wrote: ↑24 Mar 2024, 19:24New Management are young inexperienced Graduates, they are yes men/women.They have no clue as to what is in a duty.
What they do have is a spreadsheet & figures that tell them what they are asking is possible.
They have a budget which they must keep too, regardless of quality of service.
RM top Management don’t give a crap about quality of service, they have saved millions by reducing it & given a paltry 5.7 million fine.
The new employees are not staying, the vehicles are shot, held together with tape & it’s becoming embarrassing to state you work for RM.
Come June 17th it’s going to get worse.
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nuisance
- Posts: 215
- Joined: 06 Oct 2016, 12:57
- Gender: Female
Re: WTF is really going on?
I really suspect it's something like Amazon taking RM out from the inside. No one could cause RM to regress from the smooth operation that it was to the shitshow it is now in such a short space of time without strategy and commitment. Incompetence alone only goes a tiny way to explaining it. There is a deliberate agenda to make this company as piss poor as possible. You have to ask "who benefits from that?" The only ones I can come up with are competitors and, I suppose to some point, some large scale shareholders if the land and building assets get sold off.
Also, whatever's "in it" for OFCOM to carry on evading doing their job, needs exposure and pulling to bits.
Also, whatever's "in it" for OFCOM to carry on evading doing their job, needs exposure and pulling to bits.
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Acca Dacca
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- Joined: 16 Aug 2009, 17:13
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Re: WTF is really going on?
Royal Mail also like to continually compare us to Amazon and cite them as a competitor but I need it explained to me how we are Amazon's competitors. Amazon deliver directly from their own warehouses. They dont deliver for ASOS or M&S or Adidas etc like we do. Royal Mail doesnt have warehouses full of products that are sold on RoyalMail.com which makes up the bulk of the business. If we ceased to exist how would Amazon benefit? DPD and Evri sure, but how would Amazon? Dont they actually get RM to deliver some of the stuff its not cost efficient for them to?nuisance wrote: ↑24 Mar 2024, 20:58I really suspect it's something like Amazon taking RM out from the inside. No one could cause RM to regress from the smooth operation that it was to the shitshow it is now in such a short space of time without strategy and commitment. Incompetence alone only goes a tiny way to explaining it. There is a deliberate agenda to make this company as piss poor as possible. You have to ask "who benefits from that?" The only ones I can come up with are competitors and, I suppose to some point, some large scale shareholders if the land and building assets get sold off.
Also, whatever's "in it" for OFCOM to carry on evading doing their job, needs exposure and pulling to bits.
I think its like comparing apples and oranges. Yes the two companies are both ''fruit'' in that they both deliver parcels but completely different models and not competing for the same share of the market.
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
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SpacePhoenix
- MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
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- Joined: 12 Nov 2008, 17:03
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Re: WTF is really going on?
I think a good chunk of RM buildings are actually leased.nuisance wrote: ↑24 Mar 2024, 20:58I really suspect it's something like Amazon taking RM out from the inside. No one could cause RM to regress from the smooth operation that it was to the shitshow it is now in such a short space of time without strategy and commitment. Incompetence alone only goes a tiny way to explaining it. There is a deliberate agenda to make this company as piss poor as possible. You have to ask "who benefits from that?" The only ones I can come up with are competitors and, I suppose to some point, some large scale shareholders if the land and building assets get sold off.
Also, whatever's "in it" for OFCOM to carry on evading doing their job, needs exposure and pulling to bits.
Don't think local management have any effective authority any more, seems like they just implement whatever they're ordered to by higher up, and if they don't they get moved on.