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Operational Arrangements - Bank Holiday Monday 19th September 2022
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Woody Guthrie
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Operational Arrangements - Bank Holiday Monday 19th September 2022
Operational Arrangements – Funeral of HRH Queen Elizabeth – Bank Holiday Monday 19th September 2022
Both departments have received a number of enquiries relating to the Bank Holiday arrangements for the Queens funeral and further to previous updates we can confirm that an operational plan for the pending Bank Holiday for the Queens Funeral had been shared with both departments earlier this week. Both departments had raised a number of issues relating to the draft arrangements.
These related to the operational arrangements for the Sunday night which differ from normal Monday Bank Holiday arrangements, the approach to employees whose rest day falls on the Bank Holiday and the Pro rata arrangements for employees making less than 4 contracted attendances per week.
On the Night shift arrangements, the business have stated that this is an exceptional situation and that they have attempted to maximise time off on the Monday. Where Sunday night shift employees, who would normally take that night as the Bank Holiday attend they should receive a Bank Holiday Supplement for the hours after Midnight in addition to taking the Monday night as their Bank Holiday. However, the business has indicated that they will be flexible with regard to arrangements where a more traditional approach meets aspirations while covering workload.
On the approach to Rest Days, the company has retracted their previous position that the allocation of Overtime to hours worked above the conditioned hours for the week was not available and that all members would either be allocated an alternative day off in the week or assigned a lieu day. The revised wording now references the normal options within the Policy Document, which would include the overtime option.
The outstanding issue remains the Pro rata arrangements for employees making less than four attendances. The CWU believe that the application of the Pro rata calculation to what is an additional leave day confirmed to mark the Queens Funeral is not appropriate and affects the Bank Holiday entitlement for our members performing such duties across the whole year. This issue does not affect the operational arrangements and the departments have reserved the right to make further representations to the business.
While this is not an agreed document, at the 11th hour the business has moved position on some key areas and we attach the revised document to assist our Branches and Representatives in any necessary discussions. We apologise for the late notice, however the business only responded this morning. We would be grateful if you could circulate the document to Branches and Representatives within your Divisions.
Yours sincerely
Davie Robertson Mark Baulch
Assistant Secretary Assistant Secretary
Both departments have received a number of enquiries relating to the Bank Holiday arrangements for the Queens funeral and further to previous updates we can confirm that an operational plan for the pending Bank Holiday for the Queens Funeral had been shared with both departments earlier this week. Both departments had raised a number of issues relating to the draft arrangements.
These related to the operational arrangements for the Sunday night which differ from normal Monday Bank Holiday arrangements, the approach to employees whose rest day falls on the Bank Holiday and the Pro rata arrangements for employees making less than 4 contracted attendances per week.
On the Night shift arrangements, the business have stated that this is an exceptional situation and that they have attempted to maximise time off on the Monday. Where Sunday night shift employees, who would normally take that night as the Bank Holiday attend they should receive a Bank Holiday Supplement for the hours after Midnight in addition to taking the Monday night as their Bank Holiday. However, the business has indicated that they will be flexible with regard to arrangements where a more traditional approach meets aspirations while covering workload.
On the approach to Rest Days, the company has retracted their previous position that the allocation of Overtime to hours worked above the conditioned hours for the week was not available and that all members would either be allocated an alternative day off in the week or assigned a lieu day. The revised wording now references the normal options within the Policy Document, which would include the overtime option.
The outstanding issue remains the Pro rata arrangements for employees making less than four attendances. The CWU believe that the application of the Pro rata calculation to what is an additional leave day confirmed to mark the Queens Funeral is not appropriate and affects the Bank Holiday entitlement for our members performing such duties across the whole year. This issue does not affect the operational arrangements and the departments have reserved the right to make further representations to the business.
While this is not an agreed document, at the 11th hour the business has moved position on some key areas and we attach the revised document to assist our Branches and Representatives in any necessary discussions. We apologise for the late notice, however the business only responded this morning. We would be grateful if you could circulate the document to Branches and Representatives within your Divisions.
Yours sincerely
Davie Robertson Mark Baulch
Assistant Secretary Assistant Secretary
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Woody Guthrie
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Re: Operational Arrangements – Bank Holiday Monday 19th September 2022
Funeral of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth: Bank Holiday Monday 19th September 2022
Operational Principle
Operation will switch off in the early hours Monday morning and restart Tuesday morning - There will be no collection, processing or delivery operations on Monday 19th September. All duties that commence after 03:59 on Monday morning will not attend for work on Monday 19th. Staff will recommence for all duties starting after 03:59 Tuesday 20th. There may be some specific local arrangements that can be jointly varied by local Royal Mail/CWU agreement.
Any attendance that starts pre 03:59 on Monday morning 19th September will complete their full attendance and not attend for their next shift.
Those due to start after 03:59 will not attend for work on Monday 19th September.
High-Level Principles by Function
Collections
There will be no collections on Monday 19th September.
Collections will recommence Tuesday 20th September.
Processing
Parcel Hub/Plant processing Sunday night 18th September, shifts will complete their shifts and not attend Monday night 19th September.
Processing will close at the end of the Sunday night shift 18th September
Normal Bank Processing will recommence on Tuesday
Linehaul & Local Distribution
Customer collections will cease Sunday evening 18th September.
Customer collections will recommence Tuesday 20th September.
The majority of Linehaul duties starting pre-03:59 Monday 19th September, will attend as normal Sunday night/Monday morning. Some exceptions will be agreed locally and will operate starting Tuesday morning. The T24 LAT network will operate on the Sunday night with local distribution
Tuesday morning.
Linehaul restarts on Tuesday 20th September. Operating a normal Monday RSL operation
Linehaul duties Wednesday 21st should operate a normal Tuesday RSL operation
Linehaul duties Thursday 22nd should operate a normal Wednesday RSL operation
Linehaul duties Friday 23rd should operate a normal Friday RSL operation
Delivery
Last deliveries will be Sunday 18th September (BAU Sunday operation).
No deliveries due to be completed on Monday 19th September.
Deliveries will recommence Tuesday 20th September.
Attendance Arrangements
Employees scheduled to work on Monday September 19th will now not need to attend and will receive an attendance credit equal to the number of ‘duty’ hours they would otherwise have attended
Normal year-round rest day arrangements will continue to apply. Employees not scheduled to attend work on Monday 19th September, due to it being a rest day, should follow the steps in the normal policy arrangements.
Where employees are required to work on the Bank Holiday, Bank Holiday overtime rates (or conditioned hours premium payments were worked as part of contracted hours) will apply as usual.
The additional bank holiday should be factored into pro-rata bank/Public holiday entitlements for employees working less than four attendances per week
Operational Principle
Operation will switch off in the early hours Monday morning and restart Tuesday morning - There will be no collection, processing or delivery operations on Monday 19th September. All duties that commence after 03:59 on Monday morning will not attend for work on Monday 19th. Staff will recommence for all duties starting after 03:59 Tuesday 20th. There may be some specific local arrangements that can be jointly varied by local Royal Mail/CWU agreement.
Any attendance that starts pre 03:59 on Monday morning 19th September will complete their full attendance and not attend for their next shift.
Those due to start after 03:59 will not attend for work on Monday 19th September.
High-Level Principles by Function
Collections
There will be no collections on Monday 19th September.
Collections will recommence Tuesday 20th September.
Processing
Parcel Hub/Plant processing Sunday night 18th September, shifts will complete their shifts and not attend Monday night 19th September.
Processing will close at the end of the Sunday night shift 18th September
Normal Bank Processing will recommence on Tuesday
Linehaul & Local Distribution
Customer collections will cease Sunday evening 18th September.
Customer collections will recommence Tuesday 20th September.
The majority of Linehaul duties starting pre-03:59 Monday 19th September, will attend as normal Sunday night/Monday morning. Some exceptions will be agreed locally and will operate starting Tuesday morning. The T24 LAT network will operate on the Sunday night with local distribution
Tuesday morning.
Linehaul restarts on Tuesday 20th September. Operating a normal Monday RSL operation
Linehaul duties Wednesday 21st should operate a normal Tuesday RSL operation
Linehaul duties Thursday 22nd should operate a normal Wednesday RSL operation
Linehaul duties Friday 23rd should operate a normal Friday RSL operation
Delivery
Last deliveries will be Sunday 18th September (BAU Sunday operation).
No deliveries due to be completed on Monday 19th September.
Deliveries will recommence Tuesday 20th September.
Attendance Arrangements
Employees scheduled to work on Monday September 19th will now not need to attend and will receive an attendance credit equal to the number of ‘duty’ hours they would otherwise have attended
Normal year-round rest day arrangements will continue to apply. Employees not scheduled to attend work on Monday 19th September, due to it being a rest day, should follow the steps in the normal policy arrangements.
Where employees are required to work on the Bank Holiday, Bank Holiday overtime rates (or conditioned hours premium payments were worked as part of contracted hours) will apply as usual.
The additional bank holiday should be factored into pro-rata bank/Public holiday entitlements for employees working less than four attendances per week
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Cucumber
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Re: Operational Arrangements – Bank Holiday Monday 19th September 2022
So Tuesday will be super quiet before the backlog reaches DO's by Wednesday onwards?
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Woody Guthrie
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Re: Operational Arrangements – Bank Holiday Monday 19th September 2022
It depends on how your office receives its Monday work.
Ours comes through on Sunday so we don't get any feeds on a Monday therefore we'll be looking at Monday numbers on Tuesday.
Some offices get their Monday work on Monday so they won't get much until Wednesday.
Potato/potato
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Ali831
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Re: Operational Arrangements – Bank Holiday Monday 19th September 2022
'credit equal to the number of ‘duty’ hours they would otherwise have attended'
Is this credit as hours or pay or have I missed that bit?? Last bank holiday in August my DO refused pay and we were given the option of a leave credit only which was against policy. Still waiting to receive any form of credit !!!
Is this credit as hours or pay or have I missed that bit?? Last bank holiday in August my DO refused pay and we were given the option of a leave credit only which was against policy. Still waiting to receive any form of credit !!!
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Woody Guthrie
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Re: Operational Arrangements – Bank Holiday Monday 19th September 2022
On the approach to Rest Days, the company has retracted their previous position that the allocation of Overtime to hours worked above the conditioned hours for the week was not available and that all members would either be allocated an alternative day off in the week or assigned a lieu day. The revised wording now references the normal options within the Policy Document, which would include the overtime option.Ali831 wrote: ↑16 Sep 2022, 16:06'credit equal to the number of ‘duty’ hours they would otherwise have attended'
Is this credit as hours or pay or have I missed that bit?? Last bank holiday in August my DO refused pay and we were given the option of a leave credit only which was against policy. Still waiting to receive any form of credit !!!
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mjd24
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Re: Operational Arrangements – Bank Holiday Monday 19th September 2022
Easy to understandWoody Guthrie wrote: ↑16 Sep 2022, 14:43Operational Arrangements – Funeral of HRH Queen Elizabeth – Bank Holiday Monday 19th September 2022
Both departments have received a number of enquiries relating to the Bank Holiday arrangements for the Queens funeral and further to previous updates we can confirm that an operational plan for the pending Bank Holiday for the Queens Funeral had been shared with both departments earlier this week. Both departments had raised a number of issues relating to the draft arrangements.
These related to the operational arrangements for the Sunday night which differ from normal Monday Bank Holiday arrangements, the approach to employees whose rest day falls on the Bank Holiday and the Pro rata arrangements for employees making less than 4 contracted attendances per week.
On the Night shift arrangements, the business have stated that this is an exceptional situation and that they have attempted to maximise time off on the Monday. Where Sunday night shift employees, who would normally take that night as the Bank Holiday attend they should receive a Bank Holiday Supplement for the hours after Midnight in addition to taking the Monday night as their Bank Holiday. However, the business has indicated that they will be flexible with regard to arrangements where a more traditional approach meets aspirations while covering workload.
On the approach to Rest Days, the company has retracted their previous position that the allocation of Overtime to hours worked above the conditioned hours for the week was not available and that all members would either be allocated an alternative day off in the week or assigned a lieu day. The revised wording now references the normal options within the Policy Document, which would include the overtime option.
The outstanding issue remains the Pro rata arrangements for employees making less than four attendances. The CWU believe that the application of the Pro rata calculation to what is an additional leave day confirmed to mark the Queens Funeral is not appropriate and affects the Bank Holiday entitlement for our members performing such duties across the whole year. This issue does not affect the operational arrangements and the departments have reserved the right to make further representations to the business.
While this is not an agreed document, at the 11th hour the business has moved position on some key areas and we attach the revised document to assist our Branches and Representatives in any necessary discussions. We apologise for the late notice, however the business only responded this morning. We would be grateful if you could circulate the document to Branches and Representatives within your Divisions.
Yours sincerely
Davie Robertson Mark Baulch
Assistant Secretary Assistant Secretary
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1617mel
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Re: Operational Arrangements – Bank Holiday Monday 19th September 2022
So in layman's terms , Monday is my official day off, so iwill be offered an overtime payment or a day in lieu .
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thefox
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Re: Operational Arrangements – Bank Holiday Monday 19th September 2022
A day in lieu unless i have read that wrong no payment
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dazer0070
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jessicarabbit
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Re: Operational Arrangements – Bank Holiday Monday 19th September 2022
Depending on which way the wind blows and which ROD you have trying to assert his own rules. Same process applies if you dont get offered day off that week the you choose AL credit or the money. Anything else happens bang in a grievance.
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thefox
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aiden01
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Re: Operational Arrangements – Bank Holiday Monday 19th September 2022
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postslippete
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Re: Operational Arrangements – Bank Holiday Monday 19th September 2022
Good luck in getting an overtime payment!! You should get an extra day off in lieu
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
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yellowbelly
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Re: Operational Arrangements – Bank Holiday Monday 19th September 2022
postslippete wrote: ↑16 Sep 2022, 21:58
Good luck in getting an overtime payment!! You should get an extra day off in lieu
The revised wording now references the normal options within the Policy Document, which would include the overtime option.