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What's the CWU's game?

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Iva bigredbag
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What's the CWU's game?

Post by Iva bigredbag »

Ok as far as I am aware we are still waiting for a date to be set for strike action. So I read this article about the strike actions and a lot of it rang true to me.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/0 ... r-j26.html

So what do you think, is Dave Ward and Terry purposely trying to weaken our position? They have a massive mandate for strike action so why have they not set a strike date to put pressure on RM?

When are these two up for election, they need to be kicked out tbh, after the last deal they negotiated along with the current action they are dithering about with, it's clear they are both useless at their job tbh.
simon goodman
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Re: What's the CWU's game?

Post by simon goodman »

If we go on strike now it will hinder the current postal ballot.
yellowbelly
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Re: What's the CWU's game?

Post by yellowbelly »

CWU have to give 14 days notice and they won't want to disrupt the return of ballots for the second vote (which
closes on 17/8 IIRC) as disruption of the return could encourage RM to make a legal challenge to its validity,
so even if an announcement was made tomorrow the earliest date they would want to identify
for IA based on the first ballot would be 18/8. IMHO they'll wait for the result of the second ballot and then
make an announcement.
badger1
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Re: What's the CWU's game?

Post by badger1 »

It’s the lightest time of the year, surely better to kick the can down the road to September
qwerty2
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Re: What's the CWU's game?

Post by qwerty2 »

badger1 wrote:
01 Aug 2022, 17:15
It’s the lightest time of the year, surely better to kick the can down the road to September
Yes that’s when the dickheads …. sorry the public start doing their Xmas shopping !!!!
claystones
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Re: What's the CWU's game?

Post by claystones »

The problem is the longer we leave it gives Royal Mail time to make other arrangements on the strike dates,time to get agency workers in etc we are helping them out the longer we leave it
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Post by daveyeff »

agency workers will be nowhere near enough to help them.
qwerty2
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Re: What's the CWU's game?

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Can we block the gates to stop them going in? :cuppa
aiden01
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Post by aiden01 »

qwerty2 wrote:
01 Aug 2022, 22:23
Can we block the gates to stop them going in? :cuppa
NO
crimson king
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Post by crimson king »

That's an interesting article and perspective, thanks for sharing.

In tbe short term I guess there's nothing to do but stand firm and keep the faith until the Ballot result on the 17th.

Then we'll get more idea of the Union hierarchy's intent and stomach for a fight.
Sooner or later, a beat dog bites.
drfeelgood
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Post by drfeelgood »

Looks to me like Royal Mail are making changes by executive decision, whilst the union remains impotent due to its rigid processes ie waiting for a ballot result, which has bought time for the RM hierarchy to jump in and do what they want, which is happening. By the time the CWU announces anything too much water will have already flowed under the proverbial bridge, and the damage will be done. Our union rep is pathetic by his absence and the CWU leave a lot to be desired by their silence, whilst all falls around them. They have played into RM's hands, and once again RM have been one step ahead of the CWU!!
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Post by Acca Dacca »

drfeelgood wrote:
04 Aug 2022, 17:26
Looks to me like Royal Mail are making changes by executive decision, whilst the union remains impotent due to its rigid processes ie waiting for a ballot result, which has bought time for the RM hierarchy to jump in and do what they want, which is happening. By the time the CWU announces anything too much water will have already flowed under the proverbial bridge, and the damage will be done. Our union rep is pathetic by his absence and the CWU leave a lot to be desired by their silence, whilst all falls around them. They have played into RM's hands, and once again RM have been one step ahead of the CWU!!
By 'their rigid processes' do you mean anti trade union laws?
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
Clappedoutpostie
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Post by Clappedoutpostie »

And Royal Mail will always be one step ahead of the CWU, they are the ones that manage the company hence make the decisions, the CWU can only negotiate/react to them.
darkgable
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Re: What's the CWU's game?

Post by darkgable »

Clappedoutpostie wrote:
04 Aug 2022, 17:47
And Royal Mail will always be one step ahead of the CWU, they are the ones that manage the company hence make the decisions, the CWU can only negotiate/react to them.
Im not that well informed on the subject . But are the CWU doing a better job for BT Workers ?
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Post by cut_off_king »

aiden01 wrote:
01 Aug 2022, 22:51
qwerty2 wrote:
01 Aug 2022, 22:23
Can we block the gates to stop them going in? :cuppa
NO
Why not?