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Second job

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Lawrencepa2014
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Second job

Post by Lawrencepa2014 »

I’m considering taking a second job as an Argos delivery driver in the evenings. Will RM allow this? I read somewhere that second jobs that are drivers jobs wouldn’t be allowed but I just wanted to confirm
Skuse
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Re: Second job

Post by Skuse »

Lawrencepa2014 wrote:
07 May 2022, 20:56
I’m considering taking a second job as an Argos delivery driver in the evenings. Will RM allow this? I read somewhere that second jobs that are drivers jobs wouldn’t be allowed but I just wanted to confirm
As long as you declare it you will be ok however if you are a professional driver be careful not to break your driving hours which are 56 A week or 90 over a fortnight
goneaway
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Re: Second job

Post by goneaway »

Surely a conflict of interest and wouldn't be allowed. Argos would be regarded as a competitor to Royal Mail, as they have chosen to use their own fleet of vehicles and drivers rather than giving the delivery business to Royal Mail.
aiden01
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Re: Second job

Post by aiden01 »

Skuse wrote:
07 May 2022, 22:06
Lawrencepa2014 wrote:
07 May 2022, 20:56
I’m considering taking a second job as an Argos delivery driver in the evenings. Will RM allow this? I read somewhere that second jobs that are drivers jobs wouldn’t be allowed but I just wanted to confirm
As long as you declare it you will be ok however if you are a professional driver be careful not to break your driving hours which are 56 A week or 90 over a fortnight
No not allowed working for a rival company..
Clappedoutpostie
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Re: Second job

Post by Clappedoutpostie »

Crack on with it, loads at ours have 2nd jobs. As long as u clear your frame management don’t care.
Cucumber
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Re: Second job

Post by Cucumber »

Funnily enough, I was thinking about this earlier. Maybe this would be something RM would give in the pay rise/deal to allow us to supplement our wages?
It would be doubly good to let us see how hard the other half have it!

In all seriousness, I think they don't want to even risk the chance that another couriers product ends up our vans, but surely things like that already happen in rural areas etc?
Dorset Plodder
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Re: Second job

Post by Dorset Plodder »

aiden01 wrote:
07 May 2022, 22:52
No not allowed working for a rival company..
Have you seen this written anywhere? :hmmmm

Personally I'd just take the job and sod RM. I'd take Shuse's advice about drivers hours, as it's a legal requirement, and basically common sense. :thumbup

I wouldn't tell ANYONE (that avoids those back stabbing colleagues that just love to drop you in the shite) It's easier to Ask Forgiveness than it is to Get Permission. :cuppa
Like all Wage Slaves, he had two crosses to bear: The people he worked for and the people he worked with! (Stephen Vizinczey.)
mjd24
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Re: Second job

Post by mjd24 »

Skuse wrote:
07 May 2022, 22:06
Lawrencepa2014 wrote:
07 May 2022, 20:56
I’m considering taking a second job as an Argos delivery driver in the evenings. Will RM allow this? I read somewhere that second jobs that are drivers jobs wouldn’t be allowed but I just wanted to confirm
As long as you declare it you will be ok however if you are a professional driver be careful not to break your driving hours which are 56 A week or 90 over a fortnight
56 a week? How do they calculate how many hours youve driven? For example, would doing a 5 hour delivery = 5 hours driving? When obviously 90% of it is spent walking.
Dorset Plodder
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Re: Second job

Post by Dorset Plodder »

mjd24 wrote:
08 May 2022, 08:28
Skuse wrote:
07 May 2022, 22:06
Lawrencepa2014 wrote:
07 May 2022, 20:56
I’m considering taking a second job as an Argos delivery driver in the evenings. Will RM allow this? I read somewhere that second jobs that are drivers jobs wouldn’t be allowed but I just wanted to confirm
As long as you declare it you will be ok however if you are a professional driver be careful not to break your driving hours which are 56 A week or 90 over a fortnight
56 a week? How do they calculate how many hours youve driven? For example, would doing a 5 hour delivery = 5 hours driving? When obviously 90% of it is spent walking.
Mr Skuse is in Blue (which is mail centre/processing) so he's not likely to be delivering mail. He's talking about a solely driving job/hours. :cuppa
Last edited by Dorset Plodder on 08 May 2022, 09:40, edited 1 time in total.
Like all Wage Slaves, he had two crosses to bear: The people he worked for and the people he worked with! (Stephen Vizinczey.)
Skuse
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Re: Second job

Post by Skuse »

mjd24 wrote:
08 May 2022, 08:28
Skuse wrote:
07 May 2022, 22:06
Lawrencepa2014 wrote:
07 May 2022, 20:56
I’m considering taking a second job as an Argos delivery driver in the evenings. Will RM allow this? I read somewhere that second jobs that are drivers jobs wouldn’t be allowed but I just wanted to confirm
As long as you declare it you will be ok however if you are a professional driver be careful not to break your driving hours which are 56 A week or 90 over a fortnight
56 a week? How do they calculate how many hours youve driven? For example, would doing a 5 hour delivery = 5 hours driving? When obviously 90% of it is spent walking.
These are professionals drivers hours for a tacho card not a postie driving a van
Skuse
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Re: Second job

Post by Skuse »

Dorset Plodder wrote:
08 May 2022, 08:43
mjd24 wrote:
08 May 2022, 08:28
Skuse wrote:
07 May 2022, 22:06
Lawrencepa2014 wrote:
07 May 2022, 20:56
I’m considering taking a second job as an Argos delivery driver in the evenings. Will RM allow this? I read somewhere that second jobs that are drivers jobs wouldn’t be allowed but I just wanted to confirm
As long as you declare it you will be ok however if you are a professional driver be careful not to break your driving hours which are 56 A week or 90 over a fortnight
56 a week? How do they calculate how many hours youve driven? For example, would doing a 5 hour delivery = 5 hours driving? When obviously 90% of it is spent walking.
Mr Shuse is in Blue (which is mail centre/processing) so he's not likely to be delivering mail. He's talking about a solely driving job/hours. :cuppa
Yes I’m lucky enough to be a professional driver on the 7:5t
Dorset Plodder
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Re: Second job

Post by Dorset Plodder »

Skuse wrote:
08 May 2022, 08:58

Yes I’m lucky enough to be a professional driver on the 7:5t :left:
(Joke Warning) I've seen the way some of you guys drive, I think "Professional" is pushing it a bit! :cuppa
Last edited by Dorset Plodder on 08 May 2022, 21:42, edited 1 time in total.
Like all Wage Slaves, he had two crosses to bear: The people he worked for and the people he worked with! (Stephen Vizinczey.)
Numberone63
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Re: Second job

Post by Numberone63 »

You’re not even allowed to do any paid work if you decide to take time off on a career break. I’m thinking of taking 6 months off before I decide to leave or not next year and was told about this and it is in the terms and conditions on the application form.
aiden01
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Re: Second job

Post by aiden01 »

Dorset Plodder wrote:
08 May 2022, 08:02
aiden01 wrote:
07 May 2022, 22:52
No not allowed working for a rival company..
Have you seen this written anywhere? :hmmmm

Personally I'd just take the job and sod RM. I'd take Shuse's advice about drivers hours, as it's a legal requirement, and basically common sense. :thumbup

I wouldn't tell ANYONE (that avoids those back stabbing colleagues that just love to drop you in the shite) It's easier to Ask Forgiveness than it is to Get Permission. :cuppa
No i have'nt but know quite a few in mc who asked about it an were told its a big NO
yellowbelly
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Re: Second job

Post by yellowbelly »

Dorset Plodder wrote:
08 May 2022, 08:02
aiden01 wrote:
07 May 2022, 22:52
No not allowed working for a rival company..
Have you seen this written anywhere? :hmmmm

Personally I'd just take the job and sod RM. I'd take Shuse's advice about drivers hours, as it's a legal requirement, and basically common sense. :thumbup

I wouldn't tell ANYONE (that avoids those back stabbing colleagues that just love to drop you in the shite) It's easier to Ask Forgiveness than it is to Get Permission. :cuppa
Yes, it's written in RM Business Standards - Employees Guide - Conflicts Of interest.

We all got an A5 size copy through the post in the last year or so. I doubt RM would let anybody plead ignorance
by saying they didn't get a copy.