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Office resign

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stranglerscolin
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Office resign

Post by stranglerscolin »

Looking for advice or download link on correct procedures for office resign ..we are undergoing a table top revision and im suspicious of the resign thats tsking place
..seems to be two lists ,one for F/T and another for P/T,,a lot of senior F/T posties getting displaced by P/T ...i always thought it was based on seniority from top to bottom..any advice would be appreciated. 😎✌
Numberone63
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Re: Office resign

Post by Numberone63 »

Yep. That’s how our last one happened and probably the upcoming one too. I’m full time and part timers with less than half my service time were getting their own pick at rounds. Also the guys that moaned the most had their rounds ‘ring fenced’ to keep things nice a cushty for them.
yubin282
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Post by yubin282 »

Yep, it's looking the same in my office.

Gonna wait until it's official before a few of us 'voice our concerns'

Part-timers getting looked after and FT getting shafted, the favourites getting looked after too.

I'M YET TO SEE ANYTHING THAT IS GONNA BE FAIR.

Nothing is gonna change with indoor workplans either.
2yearpostie
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Post by 2yearpostie »

Ft get pick at Ft walks
Pt get pick at pt Walks

if there are less ft walks than pt walks then pt staff with less service time than some ft staff will leap frog them, unless the ft staff left over want to downgrade their contract to pt hours.
wallan
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Re: Office resign

Post by wallan »

Always been Full & Part Time Duties
Two seniority Lists ,Full Time Staff pick the Full Time Duties in seniority order
Part Time Staff pick the designated Part Time Duties in seniority order
gone postal
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Re: Office resign

Post by gone postal »

The Way Forward Agreement still holds the field
viewtopic.php?f=36&t=11941
Section 16 is the part you need👍
Also worth remembering that if there is no material change to a duty, then that duty holder can opt out of the office resign!
Changes due to the 1 hour reduction in the working week aren’t material!
stranglerscolin
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Re: Office resign

Post by stranglerscolin »

Very helpful thanks.👌
frankieboy
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Re: Office resign

Post by frankieboy »

What's the difference between a full time and a part time walk? I thought all walks were virtually the same length and time.
stranglerscolin
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Re: Office resign

Post by stranglerscolin »

The problem is management are just deciding at will what dutys are part time and what are full time..im full time on a full time duty and they've just decided its going part time..been on it for 9 years..don't think they can do that on a table top revision????
yubin282
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Post by yubin282 »

Full-timers with 18+ years service will end up as reserves and possibly asked to go to another office.

Part-timers with 2-3 years service will get duties (good ones). It's totally unfair.

WHAT'S THE UNION DOING ABOUT IT. ABSOLUTE COWARDS.
1560loopsayear
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Re: Office resign

Post by 1560loopsayear »

Outdoor element they are (or should be)..it's the Indoor Prep that makes it 'Full Time'
2yearpostie
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Re: Office resign

Post by 2yearpostie »

frankieboy wrote: ↑
08 Jun 2021, 16:08
What's the difference between a full time and a part time walk? I thought all walks were virtually the same length and time.
ft duty, total 7 hours, 5 hrs outdoor, 2 hrs ips /prep
30 hour duty, total 6 hours, 5 hrs outdoor ,1 hr prep
25 (or less) ,duty total 5 hrs, 4 1/2 outdoor, 1/2hr prep.
yubin282
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Post by yubin282 »

stranglerscolin wrote: ↑
08 Jun 2021, 16:09
The problem is management are just deciding at will what dutys are part time and what are full time..im full time on a full time duty and they've just decided its going part time..been on it for 9 years..don't think they can do that on a table top revision????
Over the last 10 years or so i've watched every obstacle put in my way to stop myself and others getting a duty. Duties being made part-time from full-time. Duties being changed from Non driving to driving (for no reason).

Absolutely disgusting.
gone postal
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Re: Office resign

Post by gone postal »

What does your rep say? They should have been involved from day 1! The office has a right to vote on the proposed revision and whether to have a re-sign. If this hasn’t been done, get in touch with your branch. The whole point of the new agreement is that members get a meaningful say in the changes. Don’t take no for an answer!
deltaforce
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Re: Office resign

Post by deltaforce »

Most probably because they are cutting out some of the indoor hours in your office if it was a table top revision