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what is the official rule:D2D Prepping

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POSTMAN wrote:
tiredwalker wrote:We are currently at stalemate with our DOM. He has now asked us to provide proof we have to do them in work time and when he was asked for proof we did them in own time his reply was. I'm the manager so i don't need to provide you proof, you show me in black and white and i'll accept it.
http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 36&t=11243" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Download and print out.
I was at stalemate with DOM.
Printed out agreement and showed him but he says it isn't proof,because since then the union have agreed that they don't have to be prepped in their time.
I'm sure its true that he was told this by his manager and i can call his manager a liar all i want but without some other form of "proof" i'm still at stalemate.
Locally,Union can't clarify anything.Its very frustrating.
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pony wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:
tiredwalker wrote:We are currently at stalemate with our DOM. He has now asked us to provide proof we have to do them in work time and when he was asked for proof we did them in own time his reply was. I'm the manager so i don't need to provide you proof, you show me in black and white and i'll accept it.
http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 36&t=11243" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Download and print out.
I was at stalemate with DOM.
Printed out agreement and showed him but he says it isn't proof,because since then the union have agreed that they don't have to be prepped in their time.
I'm sure its true that he was told this by his manager and i can call his manager a liar all i want but without some other form of "proof" i'm still at stalemate.
Locally,Union can't clarify anything.Its very frustrating.
Mate stand firm,let them take you down the conduct code,that would be a laugh!!
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It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group ... 2369583521" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I've posted on their facebook page AGAIN!!
Gave them the link to this thread and quoted some of you.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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pony wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:
tiredwalker wrote:We are currently at stalemate with our DOM. He has now asked us to provide proof we have to do them in work time and when he was asked for proof we did them in own time his reply was. I'm the manager so i don't need to provide you proof, you show me in black and white and i'll accept it.
http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 36&t=11243" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Download and print out.
I was at stalemate with DOM.
Printed out agreement and showed him but he says it isn't proof,because since then the union have agreed that they don't have to be prepped in their time.
I'm sure its true that he was told this by his manager and i can call his manager a liar all i want but without some other form of "proof" i'm still at stalemate.
Locally,Union can't clarify anything.Its very frustrating.
If the union have agreed that they don't have to be prepped in your normal duty time then just ask him for the relevent paperwork to prove it (or disprove your paperwork).
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linkinpark wrote:
Darren wrote:Very true, but as i said if pt want the extra payment, they have to do the work, if there is not enough time for them to do this then the 22.5 hr contracts clearly have major flaws.

............ for a newbie that can lose their job at a moments notice with NO right of appeal!
dont say that lol
nakes me feels sick :chuckle

im in the union so i hope im secure :chuckle
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I suppose i could always do this to buck the CWU up :left: :chuckle

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/rmc.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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Well i've got an update on this issue in an email I recieved today:

Good afternoon

Thank you for your email.

It was agreed with the CWU in the 1995 addendum to the national agreement (and the subsequent joint statement) that Door to Door mail is paid for separately via unit payment, and is due to be absorbed within normal duty time in existing deliveries. For this reason the workload associated with the product is not taken into consideration when planning revisions.

This is the agreement that is currently in force, and it means that Door to Door is left out of workload, but must be sorted and delivered along with the other mail during existing duty time with no additional hours.

Delivery is compulsory under the agreement, and the only real difference with other mail is that it is currently paid for separately.

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The main point I wanted out of this has been made where it clearly states sorted and delivered in duty time. Ok it also says no ot for delivering it if your duty is too long but i'm never gonna state d2d as a reason for ot its the rest of th workload that causes that so that doesn't worry me.

I'm so looking forward to going to work tomorrow :dance