Equalisation

[raXor]

I assume the business doesn't realise that staff are leaving early?

Well they would wouldn't they - the SISO will clearly show this. I think though most aren't actually going home early. We have people who are always back early from their cushy easy little duty and they just stand around chatting and laughing with their colleagues who are also back early. Hell, we even have people leaving at least half their mail in the frame and getting back an hour before finish time. Why this is allowed to happen is anyone's guess. Either take more mail to take you to finish time or get some LATs out.

[SpacePhoenix]

I assume the business doesn't realise that staff are leaving early?

Well they would wouldn't they - the SISO will clearly show this. I think though most aren't actually going home early. We have people who are always back early from their cushy easy little duty and they just stand around chatting and laughing with their colleagues who are also back early. Hell, we even have people leaving at least half their mail in the frame and getting back an hour before finish time. Why this is allowed to happen is anyone's guess. Either take more mail to take you to finish time or get some LATs out.

Management are probably just biding their time before hitting people with disciplinary action. They can see from the PDA data roughly when people have headed back to the office.

[Peabrain22]

Kretinsky is a SCUMBAG....end of story.. we are in a cost of living crisis and running round like lunatics day after day..13 pound an hour was great 10 years ago NOT now.. thats the reality of it.. he is ruining genuine human beings who actually love the job.but the price will be paid...this will all crumble down the line.everyone should be on £16 an hour for what we do.. except the ones who sit around in the vans and waste 3 hours a day to try make up their wages for the day because they know there not getting paid right.. cleaners are getting more.

[Gingerbread Fred]

The very fact you have people sitting on their arse doing F all to kill some time is the reason we are not on £16p/h

It's called productivity and as a company, Royal Mail are terrible at it.

[steve1873]

They are probably working on the basis legacy staff are prepared to work OT at the flat rate but completely overlooking it's £15+ p/h not £13 p/h??

True. I suppose someone starting after the deal won't know the difference, but for anyone on the new contracts before this deal are you willing to do more work for less money when they're throwing the word equalization around?

If you have an excellent base rate for your 37 hours, the overtime probably feels like a bonus. But when your base rate is bad it's a different story. That 1.25x was an opportunity to improve your overall hourly rate. Have no idea how this will play out, not everyone is in the position to just say oh well I'll just work less hours and make less than before. This will only affect a minority of new entrants but is pretty dirty towards those who NEED those hours.

I'd love to know the retention rate of those who do 50+ hours a week after these changes on the new terms. Is it actually in RMs best interest to lose those types of people?

It is/ was only 1.25x after 40 hours had been reached. Admittedly if new entrants were on FT 40 hour contracts that was any additional hour on contracted hours. There havent been any 40 hour new entrants in my area as far as im aware. All new entrants in my area have been 30 hours which meant 1.25x only applied after they had done 10 hours+ overtime.

[pm55]

It is/ was only 1.25x after 40 hours had been reached. Admittedly if new entrants were on FT 40 hour contracts that was any additional hour on contracted hours. There havent been any 40 hour new entrants in my area as far as im aware. All new entrants in my area have been 30 hours which meant 1.25x only applied after they had done 10 hours+ overtime.

I'm well aware of that. This is why I mention the new contracts who do 50+ hours. There are no 40 hour contracts in my DO, the highest contracted hours of any on the new terms is 30 hours. It's these who are doing more than 50 hours a week.

What is interesting is that before this "first step" 40 hours on the new terms was £522/week. If it gets voted through 40 hours will be £547.

Now the pay agreement from last year agreed to 4.6% for the first year, 2% (open to renegotiation if inflation is above 3% or below 2%) in the second and third years. This pay agreement was SEPERATE from USO reform or any equalisation. So if we only got the 3% it would be £538 for 40 hours.

If the 1.25x rate wasn't removed and we didn't get the 1.75% "first step" 43 hours was £571 before and would become £588 after the 3% increase. With the removal of the 1.25x rate and 1.75% increase to base, 43 hours will be £588.

Therefore, if you work 43 hours after this agreement, you negate the 3% that was agreed last year. What a clever trick by RM and unbelievable that the CWU accept this as a "win".

I know these things get confusing when you get down to the details, I'll post all the working out if anyone wants to know exactly how I've came to these figures.