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Post by Godric »

moles40 wrote:Its all very well calling people "strike breakers" ,but people who i know went in today did so because they are are in massive financial difficulties and just can't survive without the money.
This guy told me he wouldn't be able to feed his kids if he didn't attend despite the fact he was 100% behind the strike.


How many of these people yelling "strike breakers" are single blokes,with no responsbilites living at home with Mummy and Daddy i wonder :left:

i am single but i have a mortgage and bills to pay just like everyone else, hell will freeze over before i walk through a picket line
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moles40 wrote:Its all very well calling people "strike breakers" ,but people who i know went in today did so because they are are in massive financial difficulties and just can't survive without the money.
This guy told me he wouldn't be able to feed his kids if he didn't attend despite the fact he was 100% behind the strike.


How many of these people yelling "strike breakers" are single blokes,with no responsbilites living at home with Mummy and Daddy i wonder :left:

And how many have families to provide for, mortgages and bills to pay, nearly 12,000 people have lost 16-17 days pay in London after saying we will not tolerate Bullying and Harrassment of ourselves our friends and fellow colleagues (whether we know them or not) any more in the name of Royal Mails Modernisation.
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TADLEYMUSH wrote:
ersvarse wrote:.
If they dont come out why should they get help from union.
Because they pay their union subs
You're obviously 'someone' but i don't know of any rep that would help a strike breaker out.
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BELIAL wrote:There is no excuse. We've all got personal circumstances. You like the rest of us were faced with a difficult decision, you were found wanting .Stop bleating and learn to live with it,you've got a lifetime.
There is no excuse, we've all got personal cicumstances.
No one has asked for the circumstances that shaped my decision, but I think they are germane.

Background information - feel free to ignore this, my wife suffers from bad asthma ( controlled by three inhalers ), hayfever all year round and excema. She has also had seven para-umbillical hernia repairs and been the victim of a serious crime, for which she recieved a lot of counselling before I met her and just before we married she suffered a miscarriage for an unexpected pregnancy, and at the time she had moved down to Kent already, but I was still staying up in London working through the last few months of a job.

My wife had a sterilisation in March 2003, which had complications that led to her having greatly restricted mobility. The efforts of the Medway Maritime to diagnose the cause, and find a solution were long, drawn out and generally half arsed ( on her first stay, after 4 days, she was moved into the maternity ward - 2 weeks after a sterilisation! ). It was resolved to a degree 15 months later, when she had a full hysterectomy. This led to an improvement in her mobility, but it was still nowhere near what she was used to.

Having had a full hysterectomy meant she would now be on HRT ( from age 33 ), and for the first 5 months that wasn't a problem as she had been fitted with a HRT implant during the op, but once it started to wear off, we had to go to the GP, and he prescribed HRT patches ( same as nicotine patches, but you keep them on for a week ), he also advised it might take about 6 - 8 weeks for the body to adjust....well it didn't adjust, and four months later, after going in every few weeks to moan about it he finally agreed to change it to pills which worked like a charm, and for a few months things were starting to look fairly stable, and I thought if my wife's depression could be treated, then maybe at some point in a year or two maybe she could go back to work, but in August the following year ( 2006 ) my wife started having trouble with her knee and hip ( she would try to walk, but as she put any pressure on her knee it would "unlock" which meant her leg would fold at the knee ), despite multiple MRIs, X-Rays, blood tests, etc nothing conclusive was found and despite no doctor actually saying "I think it is probably nerve dermage from your multiple abdominal surgeries" that was what we've been guessing ( although it took about a year for us to realise there wasn't going to be a "eureka" moment or a definate diagnosis ).

Since then my wife and I have moved and are no longer under the "care" of the Medway, but in the area of Darent Valley, and when my wife went to our new GP for a repeat prescription for pain relief, and anti depressants he asked to see all her medications, and told her that she shouldn't be taking some of the combinations due to side effects and contra-indications ( another bang-up job by the Medway & Dr Bored - not his real name, more like his attitude). She has also recently suffered from shingles and even now still has a lot of trouble with mis-firing nerve endings.

All this time I have tried to provide for us and this year especially I am failing badly - not least because eveything is starting to get to me. In addition to coping with the above ( and more such as 5 months on the dole with no money due to a previous employer messing up my contributions just before I joined RM ), I have no social life except what I have online, this summer I was put on a duty where I could earn no overtime ( last summer I estimate I earned an extra £2k+ just from covering SAs )I have a car I've had to wait 3 weeks to get the money for a used fuel pump ( £30 ), my bike ( which I bought for cheaper commuting ) has no tax, no MOT and a bald rear tyre, and back in June I spent 3 hrs on delivery thinking about suicide ( but at least my current GP didn't waste time referring me to the local mental health, and I should be having my assessment for therapy next month ), but until then missing a bill or having my wife pay for something I promised to provide her will still be something I take personally - I know I shouldn't, but I can't help it.

Now maybe if you've read this far, some of you may scoff or insist that there is still no excuse for scabbing - fine that is your opinion and you are entitled to it, however, I hope you'd at least give me respect for being honest enough to tell you I crossed the line, rather than say nothing or worse still lie and say I was on the picket / stayed at home. To me honesty isn't the best policy, it's the only policy ( I've lost at least one job because I told the truth when I would still be there if I lied ), and while I've sometimes had to make uncomfortable choices before, but I'm satisfied that I've made the right choices for me and my wife first, then me and my colleagues second. Finally, may you and your families have a normal, happy & healthy life - I wouldn't wish any of this crap on anyone - and in the words of Dave Allen, "May your God go with you."
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Post by padraig1965 »

POSTMAN wrote:
TADLEYMUSH wrote:
ersvarse wrote:.
If they dont come out why should they get help from union.
Because they pay their union subs
You're obviously 'someone' but i don't know of any rep that would help a strike breaker out.

Spot on break the strike break the UNION.
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Post by antcpfc »

smokerjim wrote:
BELIAL wrote:There is no excuse. We've all got personal circumstances. You like the rest of us were faced with a difficult decision, you were found wanting .Stop bleating and learn to live with it,you've got a lifetime.
There is no excuse, we've all got personal cicumstances.
No one has asked for the circumstances that shaped my decision, but I think they are germane.

Genuinely sorry to hear this.I dont think many, if any, on here would criticise you.It certainly puts the excuses such as building a new house look pretty lame. :neutral:
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Post by moggymoz »

smokerjim wrote:
BELIAL wrote:There is no excuse. We've all got personal circumstances. You like the rest of us were faced with a difficult decision, you were found wanting .Stop bleating and learn to live with it,you've got a lifetime.
There is no excuse, we've all got personal cicumstances.
No one has asked for the circumstances that shaped my decision, but I think they are germane.

Background information - feel free to ignore this, my wife suffers from bad asthma ( controlled by three inhalers ), hayfever all year round and excema. She has also had seven para-umbillical hernia repairs and been the victim of a serious crime, for which she recieved a lot of counselling before I met her and just before we married she suffered a miscarriage for an unexpected pregnancy, and at the time she had moved down to Kent already, but I was still staying up in London working through the last few months of a job.

My wife had a sterilisation in March 2003, which had complications that led to her having greatly restricted mobility. The efforts of the Medway Maritime to diagnose the cause, and find a solution were long, drawn out and generally half arsed ( on her first stay, after 4 days, she was moved into the maternity ward - 2 weeks after a sterilisation! ). It was resolved to a degree 15 months later, when she had a full hysterectomy. This led to an improvement in her mobility, but it was still nowhere near what she was used to.

Having had a full hysterectomy meant she would now be on HRT ( from age 33 ), and for the first 5 months that wasn't a problem as she had been fitted with a HRT implant during the op, but once it started to wear off, we had to go to the GP, and he prescribed HRT patches ( same as nicotine patches, but you keep them on for a week ), he also advised it might take about 6 - 8 weeks for the body to adjust....well it didn't adjust, and four months later, after going in every few weeks to moan about it he finally agreed to change it to pills which worked like a charm, and for a few months things were starting to look fairly stable, and I thought if my wife's depression could be treated, then maybe at some point in a year or two maybe she could go back to work, but in August the following year ( 2006 ) my wife started having trouble with her knee and hip ( she would try to walk, but as she put any pressure on her knee it would "unlock" which meant her leg would fold at the knee ), despite multiple MRIs, X-Rays, blood tests, etc nothing conclusive was found and despite no doctor actually saying "I think it is probably nerve dermage from your multiple abdominal surgeries" that was what we've been guessing ( although it took about a year for us to realise there wasn't going to be a "eureka" moment or a definate diagnosis ).

Since then my wife and I have moved and are no longer under the "care" of the Medway, but in the area of Darent Valley, and when my wife went to our new GP for a repeat prescription for pain relief, and anti depressants he asked to see all her medications, and told her that she shouldn't be taking some of the combinations due to side effects and contra-indications ( another bang-up job by the Medway & Dr Bored - not his real name, more like his attitude). She has also recently suffered from shingles and even now still has a lot of trouble with mis-firing nerve endings.

All this time I have tried to provide for us and this year especially I am failing badly - not least because eveything is starting to get to me. In addition to coping with the above ( and more such as 5 months on the dole with no money due to a previous employer messing up my contributions just before I joined RM ), I have no social life except what I have online, this summer I was put on a duty where I could earn no overtime ( last summer I estimate I earned an extra £2k+ just from covering SAs )I have a car I've had to wait 3 weeks to get the money for a used fuel pump ( £30 ), my bike ( which I bought for cheaper commuting ) has no tax, no MOT and a bald rear tyre, and back in June I spent 3 hrs on delivery thinking about suicide ( but at least my current GP didn't waste time referring me to the local mental health, and I should be having my assessment for therapy next month ), but until then missing a bill or having my wife pay for something I promised to provide her will still be something I take personally - I know I shouldn't, but I can't help it.

Now maybe if you've read this far, some of you may scoff or insist that there is still no excuse for scabbing - fine that is your opinion and you are entitled to it, however, I hope you'd at least give me respect for being honest enough to tell you I crossed the line, rather than say nothing or worse still lie and say I was on the picket / stayed at home. To me honesty isn't the best policy, it's the only policy ( I've lost at least one job because I told the truth when I would still be there if I lied ), and while I've sometimes had to make uncomfortable choices before, but I'm satisfied that I've made the right choices for me and my wife first, then me and my colleagues second. Finally, may you and your families have a normal, happy & healthy life - I wouldn't wish any of this crap on anyone - and in the words of Dave Allen, "May your God go with you."
Smokerjim. I can't be arsed reading all that." WE ALL HAVE PROBLEMS" but believe me Sc*bing is not the answer and you may find your "colleagues" are now your enemy, which isn't going to help the situation... :Boo hoo! :sad:
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Post by smokerjim »

Thank you moggymoz for your input, and as I've said before I respect the opinions of others here, but do you take the same attitude to anything that requires a modicum of attention or concentration, such as agreements relating to pay, terms and conditions? Or election manifestos for union members / councillors / MPs / MEPs?

If you do, then I suggest you pay more attention before agreeing to what you are told. If you don't ( and you said that cos you have me down as a scab to be treated worse than excrement ) then please take the time to read what I have said, or if you have read it, please be honest as I have been.
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Post by Destroyer »

Was a bit surprised on Friday night when i arrived at one of the delivery offices i drop at in the early hours was 3 staff there doing there s/a ?? I said to them "i'm surprised to see you here ?" - they said "its all over now" ?? I said "i'm sure the strike runs to the beginning of your next shift" & was greeted with comments as such "my new boiler's got to be paid for" - obviously they were scabbing.
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Post by kaizer38 »

I work in the Scottish Borders and can tell everyone the Peebles office was an all out strike. One person did cross the picket line in the back of a van but he came from another office some where in mid lothian. Also heard offices further down the borders were in working, they will suffer when the cuts come.
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smokerjim wrote:I went in today ( after a lot of soul searching, and asking my rep if I should cancel my union membership after the announcement - fortunately he advised I stay in ), and there were 4 others at the unit I was at, ( but I don't know how many if any did ) go in at the main unit, 3 miles up the road - allegedly 2 of them are not union members according to the DOM - which makes me think either he's breaking the habit of a lifetime and telling the truth, or they are members of the NEC ). No one went out on delivery, except managers ( allegedly due to concerns about us getting a shoeing from MOPs / posties from London DOs that live in the area - but I wasn't bothered, meant I could go off to make tea and have a smoke at will ).

Oh yes, the reason it is fortunate that I'm still in the union is next Saturday is my day off, so I'll be getting my arse out of bed 2 hrs early ( my start time next week is 8:30am ) & getting down to get a good spot on the picket.

BTW, if you want to know why I went in today, I'll post it up if requested and all replies to this post will be answered in kind
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Post by pony »

Out of 22 people only 5 didn't go in at our office.
Not going to say the place because i don't want to get tarred with the brush they would be if anyone found out.
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Post by chumley.mouse »

out of 103 at our place 21 off sick or on a/l 80 came in only 2 strikers :shock: im not saying where its at.....its not a do.
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Post by NewPostieUK »

smokerjim wrote: Background information - feel free to ignore this, my wife


And therein lies the problem. Why have you got a wife? Get shot of her, you'll be able to support your collegues for as long as it takes.

Seriously, you have my sympathy, but there's always someone else worse off. What's a lousy days pay? Not much in the grand scheme of things is it? How do you think miners felt, losing a WHOLE YEARS pay?

Personally, after working part time for two years, I'm up s**t creek. I've spent thousands, redundancy and savings, just paying the bills. On the advice of a certain citizen, I'm even considering a council house, but will I cross a picket line ? Never.
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NewPostieUK wrote:
smokerjim wrote: Background information - feel free to ignore this, my wife


And therein lies the problem. Why have you got a wife? Get shot of her, you'll be able to support your collegues for as long as it takes.

Seriously, you have my sympathy, but there's always someone else worse off. What's a lousy days pay? Not much in the grand scheme of things is it? How do you think miners felt, losing a WHOLE YEARS pay?

Personally, after working part time for two years, I'm up s**t creek. I've spent thousands, redundancy and savings, just paying the bills. On the advice of a certain citizen, I'm even considering a council house, but will I cross a picket line ? Never.


You had me going there for a second "WHAT! Is he serious - ditch the wife? Mind you, it does have some logic.....no he wasn't serious ( bugger! )" :left: :left: :left:

I understand what you're saying, but I started my PT career with no savings, redundancy or any sort of bank roll ( if I did have anything like one, it would have been spent supporting me and the wife during my five months with no dole before I joined RM ), and like I said I did not make the decision lightly, ( I'm still feeling the repurcussions on my mental health this week - thankfully no one has said anything negative, ( as I think they are entitled to do - f**k what the law & RMs conduct code says ), because I think I might have done something silly by now ( and got a stage 2 for my trouble :cry :cry :cry )
I don't suppose your mouth bleeds every 28 days, does it?

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