Delivery Supplement to be part of the pay rise

[chickenwittle]

I heard this morning they want monthly pay as part of any pay rise. Anyone else hear that ?

They’ve always wanted that amongst plenty of other things, don’t think that’s a goer with all the overtime confusion involved.

[stars2025]

whens the vrs? surely they must be soon

[tramssirhc]

Nothing new here. Martin Walsh confessed months ago he'd sold the functional supplement to subsidise an offer. Using our own money to subsidise our pay is not a pay rise. This industry is a multi-billion pound one where the bosses pay themselves millions. Stop letting the CWU accept the crumbs from the floor and start demanding what is rightfully ours - the money made by our labour.

Wrong again

Get yer leader in here to repudiate what he said on CWU live. Until Martin does the record remains that Martin stated the functional supplements were part of the bargain.

[tramssirhc]

Nothing new here. Martin Walsh confessed months ago he'd sold the functional supplement to subsidise an offer. Using our own money to subsidise our pay is not a pay rise. This industry is a multi-billion pound one where the bosses pay themselves millions. Stop letting the CWU accept the crumbs from the floor and start demanding what is rightfully ours - the money made by our labour.

Wrong again

Surprise surprise.

No surprise at all. Get your leader back in here to surprise me with his repudiation.

[tramssirhc]

Martin walsh has stated no supplements will be part of pay deal.

Martin Walsh has not retracted what he said on CWU live. Get your leader in here to repudiate what he said.

[tramssirhc]

All the usual CWU loyalists pilling in trying to shore up the credibility of Martin Walsh. Lets be clear Martin stated that the functional supplements were part of the bargain. When challenged here to back up his claim that wasn't true and to explain the sellout at Mount Pleasant Martin disappeared. Then up pops the usual CWU adherents trying to defend the indefensible. Get yer leader back in here and get Martin to put it on the record.

Your constant personal nonsense with MW is tiresome and derailing a lot of threads and discussion.
If you have a point to make, it would be far more effective if you backed it up with evidence rather than just look like you are pursuing some petty personal vendetta.

It's ever so tiresome when CWU loyalists try to defend the indefensible, Martin's a big boy who can stand up for himself. I'll do what I want when I want. I'll make the points I want. The fact remains Martin has not repudiated what he stated on CWU live. Get back in your box,

[tramssirhc]

All the usual CWU loyalists pilling in trying to shore up the credibility of Martin Walsh. Lets be clear Martin stated that the functional supplements were part of the bargain. When challenged here to back up his claim that wasn't true and to explain the sellout at Mount Pleasant Martin disappeared. Then up pops the usual CWU adherents trying to defend the indefensible. Get yer leader back in here and get Martin to put it on the record.

Your constant personal nonsense with MW is tiresome and derailing a lot of threads and discussion.
If you have a point to make, it would be far more effective if you backed it up with evidence rather than just look like you are pursuing some petty personal vendetta.

Spot on , completely obsessed and boring.

Its in no way spot on. It's boring when CWU lapdogs pile in attempting to shore up Martin. Martin's a big boy and your hard earned money going in his pocket more than makes up for any criticism he faces here. Get back in your box.

[tramssirhc]

I heard this morning they want monthly pay as part of any pay rise. Anyone else hear that ?

The rate of pay isn't enough to justify salaried pay, One of the common reasons for the turnover of new starters is the demand they wait so long to be paid. This isn't a salaried job. Making workers wait four or five weeks for just above minimum wage pay is making it difficult to retain people.

[Jefferson Starfish]

Martin walsh has stated no supplements will be part of pay deal.

Martin Walsh has not retracted what he said on CWU live. Get your leader in here to repudiate what he said.

What he actually said was that they're looking at delivery, collection and processing supplements being consolidated into pay and be pensionable.

Perhaps your argument is based more on you not understanding what that means, or is it a case of you just having your own agenda?

If you want to hear it from the horses mouth, it's here 56 minutes in
https://www.youtube.com/live/kD5jlXSImE4

[tramssirhc]

Martin walsh has stated no supplements will be part of pay deal.

Martin Walsh has not retracted what he said on CWU live. Get your leader in here to repudiate what he said.

What he actually said was that they're looking at delivery, collection and processing supplements being consolidated into pay and be pensionable.

Perhaps your argument is based more on you not understanding what that means, or is it a case of you just having your own agenda?

If you want to hear it from the horses mouth, it's here 56 minutes in
https://www.youtube.com/live/kD5jlXSImE4

As I said the functional supplements are part of the bargain.

[Hyrrokkin]

All the usual CWU loyalists pilling in trying to shore up the credibility of Martin Walsh. Lets be clear Martin stated that the functional supplements were part of the bargain. When challenged here to back up his claim that wasn't true and to explain the sellout at Mount Pleasant Martin disappeared. Then up pops the usual CWU adherents trying to defend the indefensible. Get yer leader back in here and get Martin to put it on the record.

Your constant personal nonsense with MW is tiresome and derailing a lot of threads and discussion.
If you have a point to make, it would be far more effective if you backed it up with evidence rather than just look like you are pursuing some petty personal vendetta.

It's ever so tiresome when CWU loyalists try to defend the indefensible, Martin's a big boy who can stand up for himself. I'll do what I want when I want. I'll make the points I want. The fact remains Martin has not repudiated what he stated on CWU live. Get back in your box,

[Jefferson Starfish]

Martin walsh has stated no supplements will be part of pay deal.

Martin Walsh has not retracted what he said on CWU live. Get your leader in here to repudiate what he said.

What he actually said was that they're looking at delivery, collection and processing supplements being consolidated into pay and be pensionable.

Perhaps your argument is based more on you not understanding what that means, or is it a case of you just having your own agenda?

If you want to hear it from the horses mouth, it's here 56 minutes in
https://www.youtube.com/live/kD5jlXSImE4

As I said the functional supplements are part of the bargain.

LOL!
You've just confirmed what I said!
You don't understand or you've just got you're own agenda.
Or probably both.

[stevejm]

Simply not true ! No functional supplements are going and they are not a replacement for a pay rise

That's good to hear.

Martin, how many years of pay rises are you looking to agree? I hope it is only 2 max because and ideally it should be one. I can never understand why the CWU always accedes to 'strings' instead of agreeing a formula for calculating a pay rise, for example something akin to the triple lock which would see us get the payrise in a timely fashion at the beginning of April each year. Can you explain why this doesn't happen?

Why would you want to negotiate with Royal Mail every year , with them constantly wanting to chip away at our terms and conditions , a 3 year deal makes sense.

A 3 year deal makes no sense at all because nobody, not even the OBR, knows what inflation will be in 2027 and 2028. Furthermore we inevitably receive less in one deal than we would do in 3 separate deals as seen with the last deal where the 3rd year 24/25 was, almost as an after-thought agreed at 2% and inflation has been higher than that as evidenced by other pay deals being awarded by supermarkets etc. And lastly, the Company can try to chip away at our t&C all they like;it is the CWU'S job to resist that effectively as any union worth its salt would do but alas the CWU is far from being an effective union when the it comes to negotiations and protecting T&C

[stevejm]

I heard this morning they want monthly pay as part of any pay rise. Anyone else hear that ?

They’ve always wanted that amongst plenty of other things, don’t think that’s a goer with all the overtime confusion involved.

By my calculation I'm missing 1 hour 40 mins of OT just from last week which I'll need to query and sit down with someone and go over the time sheets - doing that over a month would be very laborious not to mention tedious.

[BigSacks]

All the usual CWU loyalists pilling in trying to shore up the credibility of Martin Walsh. Lets be clear Martin stated that the functional supplements were part of the bargain. When challenged here to back up his claim that wasn't true and to explain the sellout at Mount Pleasant Martin disappeared. Then up pops the usual CWU adherents trying to defend the indefensible. Get yer leader back in here and get Martin to put it on the record.

Your constant personal nonsense with MW is tiresome and derailing a lot of threads and discussion.
If you have a point to make, it would be far more effective if you backed it up with evidence rather than just look like you are pursuing some petty personal vendetta.

It's ever so tiresome when CWU loyalists try to defend the indefensible, Martin's a big boy who can stand up for himself. I'll do what I want when I want. I'll make the points I want. The fact remains Martin has not repudiated what he stated on CWU live. Get back in your box,

He literally has.
On this thread.

You have had a conversation with him about repudiating it.

You complete and utter crushing bore.