700 jobs 2 go

[cpsteve]

Wont make a bit of difference to us i have no idea what some of them do some have PAs ffs i bet if nothing was said we would not notice.

[TopperGas]

I heard that all managers across the company have to reapply for their jobs. I don’t know if that included in the 700 jobs. If not there’s going to be a lot of former posties back on walks.

Given the present DOM and DM roles are disappearing that makes sense? As far as former posties back on the walks that will only happen if the RM lets them return to being posties rather than simply make them redundant and force them to apply for a posties job in the normal manner. Although the RM might find the prospects of saving on redundancy and also future wages to attractive to turn down!

[SpacePhoenix]

Employing managers from within in DO's has rarely worked for RM.
A group of (historically mostly) males growing up working together then one of them suddenly becomes a superior. Recipe for disaster.

Just make sure they originate from another DO, problem solved

[Clappedoutpostie]

I heard that all managers across the company have to reapply for their jobs. I don’t know if that included in the 700 jobs. If not there’s going to be a lot of former posties back on walks.

Heard the same from afew of them this morning. New roles will be responsible for a certain amount of walks and will be in charge of resourcing them and controlling the budget for them. For most of them I don’t think their CV’s will meet the job description.

[fb1969]

Micro managing and ensuring they get every last second of every last minute out if eveyone. While not bothering about the correct equipment being available, because that would cost money.

[Sundodger]

Now if I were of a suspicious mind, I may see a link between a recruitment freeze and then the availability of 700 people to fill a certain number of vacancies

[Cucumber]

Now if I were of a suspicious mind, I may see a link between a recruitment freeze and then the availability of 700 people to fill a certain number of vacancies

Add to that the managerial tasks that were recently cut/streamlined.
If I remember, it was well over 100 and cut to a few dozen.

[picture123]

So if these new Customer Managers are going to be looking after smaller teams how does that affect our duty structures. E. G. take an office with 3 or 4 manager and they reduce it to 2 and they look after their own section and nothing else surely it's going to mean splitting duties and floats etc up in some offices

Will also affect leave reserves and annual leave planning in bigger units, if you belong to a team and not one unit surely that's going to change too?

[SpacePhoenix]

I heard that all managers across the company have to reapply for their jobs. I don’t know if that included in the 700 jobs. If not there’s going to be a lot of former posties back on walks.

Heard the same from afew of them this morning. New roles will be responsible for a certain amount of walks and will be in charge of resourcing them and controlling the budget for them. For most of them I don’t think their CV’s will meet the job description.

That's kinda like how it's been in MCs for the last few years with each work area having it's own budget as well as the overall shift budget. A lot of the time the managers create rota sheets so you know who's on what within the area covered by that manager

[Dorset Plodder]

I heard that all managers across the company have to reapply for their jobs. I don’t know if that included in the 700 jobs. If not there’s going to be a lot of former posties back on walks.

I personally know someone who started off as a Postie .... became a DOM ..... got sacked and busted back to Postie. He then reapplied and became a DOM again! I'd laugh my cock off if he's one of the 700 to get the sack ... AGAIN!

[Tman]

If he gets a nice fat pay-off I expect he will too..

[HTPostman]

So many of the things line managers are responsible for could be streamlined.

Just off the top of my head, and I know my office is probably run differently to others, these are the 5 most common reasons I go to manager:

1. To get put on the list for overtime that day. Could so easily be done by you inputting into the PDA the OT needed that day to complete. A team leader or whatever they want to call them could easily just look at his PDA and approve everyone’s OT so you see a tick next to it, if he/she doesn’t (eg you’re booking 6 hours extra or something ridiculous to complete) it’s declined and you have to see the leader ASAP.

2. Telling a line manager I can’t complete and need to work to time. There’s never an argument to be had so why do I need to walk around the office with 4 or 5 others joining the queue of people following a line manager like the pied piper, the PDA shows my work rate, my finish time etc. Why can’t I just take as much as I can do in the time (which I do anyway), prioritise whatever is the flavour of the day (which I do anyway) and the rest is left for OT kings/agency/afternoon staff or just rolls over.

3. Annual leave - come on, we should be able to sort that ourselves via the app by now, seeing the available slots.

4. Being put on a rural I’ve never done. Again it’s not difficult to set up a spread sheet with who knows the rural/business rounds then you never get put on it if you’ve not done it before.

5. To let him/her know that Jane or Bob hasn’t come in for whatever reason and it’s 30mins past their start time. I’ve known management not realise for 2+ hours someone hasn’t come in, it’s really slack. Clocking in machines linked to managers PDA which flags up if someone isn’t in, simples!

I say it a lot but the technology is available, upper management need to start using it.

[scirocco'r']

Smaller teams can only be achieved by reducing OPG numbers. The announcement was clear on afternoon parcel and Sunday managers. The likely outcome of this is Monday to Friday USO with a weekend and weekday afternoon parcel operation.
No day off cover managers with annual leave management cover being absorbed, which with the stampede for VR will easily remove the 700 managers.
This will also involve 20,000 OPG job losses, which when you look at vacancies and attrition it will only take 2 to 3 years to reduce the workforce to that level.
Remember the management reduction has likely come from a consultancy. No way Simon Thompson could come up with such a detailed plan.
Royal Mail is desperate to reduce the frontline wage bill, as this will flow straight through to profits, dividends and the magic £10 share price.
Turbulent times ahead

[A2B]

Can't see there being a stampede for VR, from what i hear the terms are very basic.

Talk is a ballot for strike action which if that runs it's course takes place just as RM hope to implement the changes.

[Clappedoutpostie]

Can't see there being a stampede for VR, from what i hear the terms are very basic.

Talk is a ballot for strike action which if that runs it's course takes place just as RM hope to implement the changes.

I think they have had abit more info today, aka “meat on the bone”. Apparently the jobs they can apply for can be anywhere within the postcode area, an office that has been the “home” office won’t necessarily be the one you are at anymore and u should be prepared to travel. There won’t be any shortage of takers on the VR’s and it’s doubtful they will end up on strike. This isn’t just going to have an impact on the managers, anyone who has a friendly relationship with management and gets deals and cushy duty’s from them should be very worried, same goes for the ones who ridiculously drag jobs out for extended overtime as well. Times are about to really change and they will be coming for us next.