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Who will you vote for on June 8th

Conservative
122
23%
Labour
283
54%
Lib Dem
15
3%
SNP
36
7%
Green
6
1%
UKIP
21
4%
Other inc No Vote
37
7%
 
Total votes: 520

stan_lers
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Post by stan_lers »

Judgee wrote:Oh I read it, now find me one with fax and figures over something more relevant, like the last 20 years and only the last 20 years maybe?

I know the facts, do you? Are you going to base your vote on what labour/Tory governments did last century?

Ok gone enough I could spend the rest of my life in this argument and I have to go kill some foxes whilst driving my Jag and sipping my champagne! :roll:
It doesn't matter how recent it is, because the parties have had the same general philosophies for most of those 70 years. The Tories are still about cutting back the state, the free market, and low tax. Labour are about state intervention, progressive tax, and the welfare state.

Therefore, the figures show that despite what they tell you, the Tory's approach actually leads to increased debt and borrowing. The popular myth for those 70 years, and one of the main reasons people have voted Conservative, is that they believe 'Labour spend and mess up the economy, the Tories come in to fix that mess, and the cycle continues'. The entire reason people have voted that way their entire lives is completely wrong, and it's still wrong today.
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Post by Radio »

https://youtu.be/n7sFVWl2OM0

Tory record on debt
2010 National Debt was £979 BILLION - 65% of GDP
2016 National Debt was £1.73 TRILLION - 89% of GDP
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Post by baldrick »

Another rich Tory backer
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Post by Judgee »

stan_lers wrote:
Judgee wrote:Oh I read it, now find me one with fax and figures over something more relevant, like the last 20 years and only the last 20 years maybe?

I know the facts, do you? Are you going to base your vote on what labour/Tory governments did last century?

Ok gone enough I could spend the rest of my life in this argument and I have to go kill some foxes whilst driving my Jag and sipping my champagne! :roll:
It doesn't matter how recent it is, because the parties have had the same general philosophies for most of those 70 years. The Tories are still about cutting back the state, the free market, and low tax. Labour are about state intervention, progressive tax, and the welfare state.
Right you are then I guess I must have slept through the Blair years and his slightly less Toryish party! :thumbup
Union what Union? Do we have a union?
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Post by Tman »

baldrick wrote:Another rich Tory backer
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This disgusting photo should be shared all over social media.
It is, after all, an excellent example of how truly desperate Corbyn's followers must be.
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Post by Godric »

the SNP .... it is the only way forward for Scotland ... we voted to remain in the EU because we see ourselves as Europeans ... our ties with Europe pre-dates the UK by over a millennium ... quite simply the UK is not worth saving they refused to change in 2014 after they promised to do so and said the only way to guarantee our EU citizenship was by voting NO during the Indy referendum .... the UK has had it's chance it failed, it protects high profile peados (MPs, entertainers, the mega rich etc) blocked reporting on offshore banking etc the UK as it stands now is grubby and corrupt to the very core and Theresa May and Ruth Davidson has made it clear they want to wipe Scotland off the map and become a region
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Post by Tman »

You're doing that nonsensical tartan ranting again... :cuppa
stan_lers
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Post by stan_lers »

Judgee wrote:Right you are then I guess I must have slept through the Blair years and his slightly less Toryish party! :thumbup
National Minimum Wage, significantly reducing child and pensioner poverty, the Good Friday Agreement, doubling spending on the NHS on education, lowest inflation, unemployment and debt for decades, record growth, the Human Rights Act, civil partnerships, record fall in homelessness.

Yes, New Labour did a lot of bad things, but I believe they were the best and definitely the most progressive government this country had since Atlee's. He embraced capitalism, but he was a social democrat, and calling him a conservative is plain wrong. Go through that list and on almost every single count, the Tories have done the opposite, and as a result we are worse off in real terms than when they came in, having had 7 years to turn things around.
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Post by jetblack »

baldrick wrote:Another rich Tory backer
Wasn't he good mates with former Conservative Prime Minister Edward Heath ?

They loved to holiday at a childrens home on Jersey. It was all very innocent ;liar
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simply_the_best
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Post by simply_the_best »

Tman wrote:You're doing that nonsensical tartan ranting again... :cuppa

I'm not even going to bother starting on his nonsense, waste of time.
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Post by jetblack »

simply_the_best wrote:
Tman wrote:You're doing that nonsensical tartan ranting again... :cuppa

I'm not even going to bother starting on his nonsense, waste of time.

I've been trolled by this bloke (Tman) for a couple of years now. Definitely best to ignore.
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Post by SierraOscarBravo »

My mind is made up. I will be voting Conservative.

I am just an ordinary working man with a young family to support. I have always voted Labour in the past, but with Corbyn and Abbott at the helm, I am sorry to say the Labour Party no longer represents people like me.

I voted Leave in the EU referendum last year. Twenty years earlier I believed that we should be in the EU and reforming it to the way we want it. Unfortunately twenty years later the conclusion I reached was that the EU is an out of control bureaucracy incapable of reforming itself. Controlling our borders and managing who we let in to our country should be determined by the British government not by the EU. My vote to Leave was above all a vote to regain our independence from an increasingly corrupt and dictatorial EU regime that sooner or later is destined to fall apart.

I am aware that Theresa May campaigned to remain in the EU, but that she respects the decision of the British people to leave the EU and deliver upon that has made me respect her more.

Those on the Left who are so twisted by their own dogma and hatred of their opponents need to take a good long hard look at themselves. To say that you cannot support any party other than Labour if you are a working person is complete nonsense.

The Conservatives are going to win a big majority on 8th June and it will be ordinary working people - many of whom had always voted Labour in the past - who will deliver the landslide.

Corbyn could potentially lose 50% of his MPs but I doubt he will resign. The Left has annihilated the Labour Party and until or unless Corbyn goes the party will continue to wither away.
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Post by mickeymacca »

SierraOscarBravo wrote:My mind is made up. I will be voting Conservative.


OK fair enough, I guess I can expect the next part of this post to convince me as to why I too should be voting Conservative.
SierraOscarBravo wrote:I am just an ordinary working man with a young family to support. I have always voted Labour in the past, but with Corbyn and Abbott at the helm, I am sorry to say the Labour Party no longer represents people like me.
Don't sell yourself short, you're a politically engaged, working bloke that wants the best for his family, earns my respect.
SierraOscarBravo wrote:I voted Leave in the EU referendum last year. Twenty years earlier I believed that we should be in the EU and reforming it to the way we want it. Unfortunately twenty years later the conclusion I reached was that the EU is an out of control bureaucracy incapable of reforming itself. Controlling our borders and managing who we let in to our country should be determined by the British government not by the EU. My vote to Leave was above all a vote to regain our independence from an increasingly corrupt and dictatorial EU regime that sooner or later is destined to fall apart.
Ok no probs, that was not my view at the time, but that issue is now resolved and we are leaving the EU, so I think we can draw a line under that.
SierraOscarBravo wrote:I am aware that Theresa May campaigned to remain in the EU, but that she respects the decision of the British people to leave the EU and deliver upon that has made me respect her more.
As opposed to Jeremy Corbyn who was conflicted in his position to remain in the EU, but respects the decision of the British people to leave the EU and deliver upon that.
SierraOscarBravo wrote:Those on the Left who are so twisted by their own dogma and hatred of their opponents need to take a good long hard look at themselves. To say that you cannot support any party other than Labour if you are a working person is complete nonsense.
Granted, a little bit of humility and acceptance as to why 'ordinary' blokes like you have decided to use your vote differently is required if we are to try to persuade you to reconsider. We are all in the same boat here, we're not enemies.
SierraOscarBravo wrote:The Conservatives are going to win a big majority on 8th June and it will be ordinary working people - many of whom had always voted Labour in the past - who will deliver the landslide.
Probably right, but it will be ordinary working people that will be affected by the course of that action, sadly.
SierraOscarBravo wrote:Corbyn could potentially lose 50% of his MPs but I doubt he will resign. The Left has annihilated the Labour Party and until or unless Corbyn goes the party will continue to wither away.
To be replaced by what/ who?

For every GE I have been able to vote I have heard the cliche 'it does n't make a difference who you vote for, they are all the same' well for the first time in my experience there is a real alternative, ask yourself honestly Sierra Oscar what real improvement in your life and your family's, who you work so hard to provide for, will a returned Conservative government offer?
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Tman
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Post by Tman »

I've been trolled by this bloke (Tman) for a couple of years now. Definitely best to ignore.
Or in reality-

This bloke (Tman) has been pointing out the rather obvious errors in my often contentious and paradoxical statements for a couple of years now, and although I've tried being rude, ignoring him and trying to take some sort of moral high-ground, he still keeps pointing out the errors etc in my posts.

Dear old jet, keep it up.