How can CWU have REPS advising NO?

NewPostieUK · Post by **NewPostieUK** » 10 Mar 2010, 20:13

oldrope wrote:Hia i will voteing yes coz if it is a no vote we will just end up with a worse deal like in the passed

Are you sure you can spell 'X' ?

belle smith · Post by **belle smith** » 10 Mar 2010, 20:32

axeman wrote:
oldrope wrote:Hia i will voteing yes coz if it is a no vote we will just end up with a worse deal like in the passed

and we won't assisit you when your mail centre is closed (one of the 50 %) yes blind leading the blind

Thats a bit uncalled for.....

SWIM · Post by **SWIM** » 10 Mar 2010, 20:33

el_cartero wrote:How is it possible that CWU REPRESENTIVES in the office are telling everyone to vote NO?

Shurly the CWU must now realise they have FKD UP??????

dont the reps represent the cwu.

what an absaloute joke

our board at work is cover with one big NO

you're not in the union.
don't worry about it.

el_cartero · Post by **el_cartero** » 10 Mar 2010, 20:37

i am worried about it

wtf is your UNION doing to my job?

U BETTER GET A f***ing GRIP

belle smith · Post by **belle smith** » 10 Mar 2010, 20:44

el_cartero wrote: U BETTER GET A f***ing GRIP

Don't lose it el.....that sort of talk is uncalled for

el_cartero · Post by **el_cartero** » 10 Mar 2010, 20:46

deep breath.....

ok ... im away to lie down backs aching.

Glenno · Post by **Glenno** » 10 Mar 2010, 20:47

el_cartero wrote:i am worried about it

wtf is your UNION doing to my job?

U BETTER GET A f***ing GRIP

your post says it all el
do you have a cunning plan
join up or shut up you u r really pissing me off

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 10 Mar 2010, 20:55

el_cartero wrote:here pal....

My posts are the most succesfull posts.

Is cutting off banned - 900 +

How can CWU have REPS advising NO? 950 +

Its time for part timers to fight 1000 +

and so on

A minimum of 35% of eligible voters supported Mad Maggie in the 80s and that's Millions of people and yet she is the most detested person I know. Numbers reading your posts does not mean they support your views just that they have read them.

BELIAL · Post by **BELIAL** » 10 Mar 2010, 21:11

el_cartero wrote:i am worried about it

wtf is your UNION doing to my job?

U BETTER GET A f***ing GRIP

I think you might be confusing management with union(leadership).
No worries an easy mistake to make

belle smith · Post by **belle smith** » 10 Mar 2010, 21:17

BELIAL wrote:I think you might be confusing management with union(leadership).
No worries an easy mistake to make

el_cartero · Post by **el_cartero** » 10 Mar 2010, 21:21

so because im not in the union .

i shouldnt be concerned as to what the union have done.

i should just close my eyes and pretend its not happening.

When you union boys sort this mess out give me a shout.

(send me a message when the nightmaire is over)

el_cartero · Post by **el_cartero** » 10 Mar 2010, 21:26

lets celeberate our victory

all our striking ... 4 months of talks :)

we really had them at christmans..

and we got our agreement out of them :)

CELBERATE?

Post by **POSTMAN** » 10 Mar 2010, 21:29

You know what,he's only got 575 posts but it seems like 5575!

Post by **End of the road** » 10 Mar 2010, 22:46

numan wrote:
End of the road wrote:There will be many reps supporting the vote and many opposing, thats only right and fitting in a democratic union.

Now we could have a long debate on the rights and wrongs of collective responsibilty, but basically I regard the local branch being the true authority . I would expect that my branch will have a meeting to discuss this "deal" at some length and that meeting will determine the branches policy towards the vote in the form of a recommendation. I would expect all those taking part to abide by that collective decision and that would include reps as well as branch officials anyone who disagreed can of course resign and follow there own path, but we have to be responsive and in any given locality speak with one voice.

This is completely wrong, reps are there in order to represent the feelings of their fellow workers, not toe the HQ line and sell the deal to us.

Try reading what I actually wrote .......................

The local branch memebers would meet discuss it and vote making it branch policy.

Sod all to do with HQ and I have never toed the HQ line

Post by **End of the road** » 10 Mar 2010, 22:54

Fluke wrote:
End of the road wrote:There will be many reps supporting the vote and many opposing, thats only right and fitting in a democratic union.

Now we could have a long debate on the rights and wrongs of collective responsibilty, but basically I regard the local branch being the true authority . I would expect that my branch will have a meeting to discuss this "deal" at some length and that meeting will determine the branches policy towards the vote in the form of a recommendation. I would expect all those taking part to abide by that collective decision and that would include reps as well as branch officials anyone who disagreed can of course resign and follow there own path, but we have to be responsive and in any given locality speak with one voice.

This vote has far reaching effects on the business as a whole for years to come, we can reject it and my first thoughts are to reject. I think it stinks and how can anyone predict the rate of inflation in three years let alone all the other guff. I was not privvy to what was discussed and neither where most of you, one thing I am sure we all know about is the state of the business and the drop in mail volumes through mail centres and RDCs.

However...........................

If we reject we will have to out on the cobbles again and maybe stay out for some time in the economic climate we are in at the moment, with an election looming, with public opinion wavering against us. The final thing is that RM will simply impose this deal anyway, without the sweetners and maybe close more MCs and quicker, we are simply too far down the road now. We lost this when we backed away before Christmas, the union actually achieved a lot we got them talking again. The union has to try and secure as many jobs and get the best deal it can in regards to pay and conditions, the world is changing and we can not turn the clock back. I just do not think we could win and we will end up worse off, finacially and job wise the fight is not in enough people now.

Its a matter of choice now vote for it and be dammed or vote against and be dammed ................ and some
I notice that you come from Mail Centres/Processing so your viewpoint be be very different to that of a walking postman. Most of the big changes and paycuts are aimed the delivery postman, we need to send a message back to CWU HQ that we will not accept this pile of crap.

I work in Distribution and I expect to be "INTEGRATED" into delivery as some point in the future ...................

Don't get me wrong I think it stinks as well, I am just at a loss to wonder where we go from here.

If we reject RM will impose whatever they want and I do not think there is enough fight left in many members.

In my area its the delivery units that will fragment and cross picket lines in the rurals and even large urban offices they where great last time, but that was an exception.

ROYALMAILCHAT

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