New Delivery model

[TopperGas]

Our office is hitting our targets with much less staff and that is doing one walk and 1C and tracked on the other walk. If we just have one person covering two walks they are just doing 1C and tracked on both walks. Basically all walks are being juggled in a way that it's not falling behind much. I would have thought they would have gone for this approach now that 2C delivery is more relaxed.
However this won't work over Xmas.

We've a few rounds where that can be done but even so doing double mail 6 days a week becomes relentless and it's also dead at the moment, mail wise, once it picks again in September it will be impossible. We all knew it can't be done and have been proven right. I can't understand why they didn't just drop Saturday's 2c then drop Tuesday's 2c as post dropped off, and continue dropping 2c over the years.

[yubin282]

Hearing we are now moving towards 1 in 2 Saturdays off with Saturdays still an early finish. Also talking about longs and shorts so assuming weds/ thurs longer days . Also talking about staying permanently on your own duty now rather than being moved about. How do we feel this will play out ? I’m fully expecting a CWU pile on from the usual suspects but in reality it would have been stupidity to sign off on a model that was doomed to failure.

doomed to failure - they've signed it off many times before.

What’s been signed off exactly ?

erm.... the last revisions, and the revision before that.......

[claretandblue]

I can't understand why they didn't just drop Saturday's 2c then drop Tuesday's 2c as post dropped off, and continue dropping 2c over the years.

This should have been the model, drop Saturday, then Tuesday, then eventually Thursday.

[ted_e_bear]

I can't understand why they didn't just drop Saturday's 2c then drop Tuesday's 2c as post dropped off, and continue dropping 2c over the years.

This should have been the model, drop Saturday, then Tuesday, then eventually Thursday.

Definitely, would have been a start and an easy one to implement, they must have spent a fortune dreaming up all that Ahmed Bob and Evie bollocks

[qwerty2]

Our office is hitting our targets with much less staff and that is doing one walk and 1C and tracked on the other walk. If we just have one person covering two walks they are just doing 1C and tracked on both walks. Basically all walks are being juggled in a way that it's not falling behind much. I would have thought they would have gone for this approach now that 2C delivery is more relaxed.
However this won't work over Xmas.

What are non drivers doing?

[SkiSunday]

Our office is hitting our targets with much less staff and that is doing one walk and 1C and tracked on the other walk. If we just have one person covering two walks they are just doing 1C and tracked on both walks. Basically all walks are being juggled in a way that it's not falling behind much. I would have thought they would have gone for this approach now that 2C delivery is more relaxed.
However this won't work over Xmas.

How long are you spending on the street each day? What are the supposed walk span lengths at your DO? What is your finish time?

[postslippete]

What are non drivers doing?

I don't personally have an issue with non-drivers working every Monday-Friday. There are only a few "genuine" non-drivers that are still on legacy contracts and started the job when driving wasn't a pre-requisite in our office.

I don't think it is too much of an issue if drivers work every other Saturday and the Saturdays are a shorter day.

[ted_e_bear]

What are non drivers doing?

I don't personally have an issue with non-drivers working every Monday-Friday. There are only a few "genuine" non-drivers that are still on legacy contracts and started the job when driving wasn't a pre-requisite in our office.

I don't think it is too much of an issue if drivers work every other Saturday and the Saturdays are a shorter day.

Agreed, the amount of as you say "genuine" non drivers must be dwindling now, tbh I really don't care if someone gets a few more sats off than me just because they can't drive.

[SkiSunday]

What are non drivers doing?

I don't personally have an issue with non-drivers working every Monday-Friday. There are only a few "genuine" non-drivers that are still on legacy contracts and started the job when driving wasn't a pre-requisite in our office.

I don't think it is too much of an issue if drivers work every other Saturday and the Saturdays are a shorter day.

Agreed, the amount of as you say "genuine" non drivers must be dwindling now, tbh I really don't care if someone gets a few more sats off than me just because they can't drive.

pal. The non driving contract OPGs ((before 2006) should be offered processing duties/jobs at the closest MC or, if the DO runs on all drivers, VR and free training for another trade.

[Perseus]

What are non drivers doing?

I don't personally have an issue with non-drivers working every Monday-Friday. There are only a few "genuine" non-drivers that are still on legacy contracts and started the job when driving wasn't a pre-requisite in our office.

I don't think it is too much of an issue if drivers work every other Saturday and the Saturdays are a shorter day.

What's your plan to make a Saturday shorter if only 50% of staff are in?

[Pidleypoo]

What are non drivers doing?

I don't personally have an issue with non-drivers working every Monday-Friday. There are only a few "genuine" non-drivers that are still on legacy contracts and started the job when driving wasn't a pre-requisite in our office.

I don't think it is too much of an issue if drivers work every other Saturday and the Saturdays are a shorter day.

Agreed, the amount of as you say "genuine" non drivers must be dwindling now, tbh I really don't care if someone gets a few more sats off than me just because they can't drive.

pal. The non driving contract OPGs ((before 2006) should be offered processing duties/jobs at the closest MC or, if the DO runs on all drivers, VR and free training for another trade.

Not thought that through have you.

How tf are non drivers getting to a mail centre if they don’t drive ? Most are miles away and on industrial estates where busses and trains don’t go.

To add to that , nearest to me is about 45 miles away.

[Acca Dacca]

What are non drivers doing?

I don't personally have an issue with non-drivers working every Monday-Friday. There are only a few "genuine" non-drivers that are still on legacy contracts and started the job when driving wasn't a pre-requisite in our office.

I don't think it is too much of an issue if drivers work every other Saturday and the Saturdays are a shorter day.

Agreed, the amount of as you say "genuine" non drivers must be dwindling now, tbh I really don't care if someone gets a few more sats off than me just because they can't drive.

pal. The non driving contract OPGs ((before 2006) should be offered processing duties/jobs at the closest MC or, if the DO runs on all drivers, VR and free training for another trade.

Was years after 2006 contracts changed to needing a license

[Ren Hoëk]

What are non drivers doing?

I don't personally have an issue with non-drivers working every Monday-Friday. There are only a few "genuine" non-drivers that are still on legacy contracts and started the job when driving wasn't a pre-requisite in our office.

I don't think it is too much of an issue if drivers work every other Saturday and the Saturdays are a shorter day.

Agreed, the amount of as you say "genuine" non drivers must be dwindling now, tbh I really don't care if someone gets a few more sats off than me just because they can't drive.

pal. The non driving contract OPGs ((before 2006) should be offered processing duties/jobs at the closest MC or, if the DO runs on all drivers, VR and free training for another trade.

Was years after 2006 contracts changed to needing a license

I joined after this and mine doesn't state driving.

[postslippete]

What's your plan to make a Saturday shorter if only 50% of staff are in?

I don't have all the answers - ask Martin. I've long said that some duties need to be put back in our office for the ODM to work but I assume that it would be something like prioritising the Specials, Tracked items and any 1c off 2 duties??

[SkiSunday]

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