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RMCtv : Capture Photo on Delivery - all Special Delivery Guaranteed and RM Tracked Signature items now included

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sixfoottwo
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Re: RMCtv : Capture Photo on Delivery - all Special Delivery Guaranteed and RM Tracked Signature items now included

Post by sixfoottwo »

mjd24 wrote:
01 Mar 2023, 16:10
Rumour from my line manager is that from April we’re to be issued with a roll of small plastic bags in which we are to collect a sample of spit from recipients of SD’s for DNA testing purposes. We shall see.
Already in at ours, works well tbf.
sindba
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Post by sindba »

sixfoottwo wrote:
01 Mar 2023, 16:39
mjd24 wrote:
01 Mar 2023, 16:10
Rumour from my line manager is that from April we’re to be issued with a roll of small plastic bags in which we are to collect a sample of spit from recipients of SD’s for DNA testing purposes. We shall see.
Already in at ours, works well tbf.
In our office we have to amputate the recipient's finger for fingerprint analysis.

Planners said trials show it causes no extra pain or discomfort to the victim, so it's all good.
monkleigh
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Re: RMCtv : Capture Photo on Delivery - all Special Delivery Guaranteed and RM Tracked Signature items now included

Post by monkleigh »

Might be easier to just issue us all with body worn cameras
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Post by funkflex55 »

monkleigh wrote:
01 Mar 2023, 17:24
Might be easier to just issue us all with body worn cameras
But will they or won't they have a live feed of them in office that'll be used for health and safety(tracking purposes) ?!
eastie
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Re: RMCtv : Capture Photo on Delivery - all Special Delivery Guaranteed and RM Tracked Signature items now included

Post by eastie »

Always put DNS on mine
nobody questioned it as I photograph parcel with the front door open as proof
WalkerX
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Re: RMCtv : Capture Photo on Delivery - all Special Delivery Guaranteed and RM Tracked Signature items now included

Post by WalkerX »

kazardaimenu wrote:
27 Feb 2023, 11:26
No word on this from the wpc or manager. Got a special signed for then took a photo of the driveway. Will be being asked to take a snap of every letter soon.
Retinal scan. :crazy:
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Post by WalkerX »

funkflex55 wrote:
01 Mar 2023, 20:18
monkleigh wrote:
01 Mar 2023, 17:24
Might be easier to just issue us all with body worn cameras
But will they or won't they have a live feed of them in office that'll be used for health and safety(tracking purposes) ?!
:Applause :Applause :chuckle
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Post by TopperGas »

eastie wrote:
01 Mar 2023, 23:02
Always put DNS on mine
nobody questioned it as I photograph parcel with the front door open as proof
That's just proof you stood in front of an open door, not that you handed the parcel over to the customer? What you are gaining by not obtaining a signature, just saving time which RM clearly don't want you to save.
yellowbelly
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Post by yellowbelly »

TopperGas wrote:
02 Mar 2023, 19:35
eastie wrote:
01 Mar 2023, 23:02
Always put DNS on mine
nobody questioned it as I photograph parcel with the front door open as proof
That's just proof you stood in front of an open door, not that you handed the parcel over to the customer? What you are gaining by not obtaining a signature, just saving time which RM clearly don't want you to save.
If you're say a pic is not proof then neither is a 'signature'. If you're a reserve on a route you've never done before
do you ask for proof of ID of who they say they are? Does the scribble they put on the PDA actually look like
their signature?

When presenting a SD I've said 'I've got a Special for J Jones is that you?' They say yes and I've later
found out that they've interpreted '...is that you?' as 'Is that this address?' and they are not actually J Jones ie
the individual addressed on the SD, they're a cousin twelve times removed or other random person in the property,
but I've put J Jones as the signatory, so the whole process is full of holes!
TopperGas
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Post by TopperGas »

yellowbelly wrote:
02 Mar 2023, 20:06
TopperGas wrote:
02 Mar 2023, 19:35
eastie wrote:
01 Mar 2023, 23:02
Always put DNS on mine
nobody questioned it as I photograph parcel with the front door open as proof
That's just proof you stood in front of an open door, not that you handed the parcel over to the customer? What you are gaining by not obtaining a signature, just saving time which RM clearly don't want you to save.
If you're say a pic is not proof then neither is a 'signature'. If you're a reserve on a route you've never done before
do you ask for proof of ID of who they say they are? Does the scribble they put on the PDA actually look like
their signature?

When presenting a SD I've said 'I've got a Special for J Jones is that you?' They say yes and I've later
found out that they've interpreted '...is that you?' as 'Is that this address?' and they are not actually J Jones ie
the individual addressed on the SD, they're a cousin twelve times removed or other random person in the property,
but I've put J Jones as the signatory, so the whole process is full of holes!
If somebody is answering the door and then giving a false signature etc for a parcel then surely that's somewhat different than a postie not even bothering to ask for one? It's a pain getting one but if a customer submits a DOR and you haven't got one I doubt you've got any defence if a COM wants to conduct you or worse, why risk your job just to save the company a few minutes each day as you can't leave work early now SISO is in place.
clashcityrocker
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Post by clashcityrocker »

yellowbelly wrote:
02 Mar 2023, 20:06
If you're a reserve on a route you've never done before
do you ask for proof of ID of who they say they are?
No. We deliver to the address and not the person (unless that product actually exists. It was talked about but I have never seen one)
Proof of ID is required in a CSP.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
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Re: RMCtv : Capture Photo on Delivery - all Special Delivery Guaranteed and RM Tracked Signature items now included

Post by LouBarlow »

TopperGas wrote:
02 Mar 2023, 20:40
yellowbelly wrote:
02 Mar 2023, 20:06
TopperGas wrote:
02 Mar 2023, 19:35
eastie wrote:
01 Mar 2023, 23:02
Always put DNS on mine
nobody questioned it as I photograph parcel with the front door open as proof
That's just proof you stood in front of an open door, not that you handed the parcel over to the customer? What you are gaining by not obtaining a signature, just saving time which RM clearly don't want you to save.
If you're say a pic is not proof then neither is a 'signature'. If you're a reserve on a route you've never done before
do you ask for proof of ID of who they say they are? Does the scribble they put on the PDA actually look like
their signature?

When presenting a SD I've said 'I've got a Special for J Jones is that you?' They say yes and I've later
found out that they've interpreted '...is that you?' as 'Is that this address?' and they are not actually J Jones ie
the individual addressed on the SD, they're a cousin twelve times removed or other random person in the property,
but I've put J Jones as the signatory, so the whole process is full of holes!
If somebody is answering the door and then giving a false signature etc for a parcel then surely that's somewhat different than a postie not even bothering to ask for one? It's a pain getting one but if a customer submits a DOR and you haven't got one I doubt you've got any defence if a COM wants to conduct you or worse, why risk your job just to save the company a few minutes each day as you can't leave work early now SISO is in place.
Absolutely. People cutting corners is the reason we have rounds reaching unachievable levels. Why people just can’t perform the tasks they are instructed to do is beyond me. We’ve had people conduct coded for signing for recorded parcels, let alone being stupid enough to sign for SDs. I have no sympathy for anyone risking their job for this.
eastie
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Re: RMCtv : Capture Photo on Delivery - all Special Delivery Guaranteed and RM Tracked Signature items now included

Post by eastie »

TopperGas wrote:
02 Mar 2023, 19:35
eastie wrote:
01 Mar 2023, 23:02
Always put DNS on mine
nobody questioned it as I photograph parcel with the front door open as proof
That's just proof you stood in front of an open door, not that you handed the parcel over to the customer? What you are gaining by not obtaining a signature, just saving time which RM clearly don't want you to save.
No I dont want anyone else handling my PDA
SpacePhoenix
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Re: RMCtv : Capture Photo on Delivery - all Special Delivery Guaranteed and RM Tracked Signature items now included

Post by SpacePhoenix »

eastie wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 17:15
TopperGas wrote:
02 Mar 2023, 19:35
eastie wrote:
01 Mar 2023, 23:02
Always put DNS on mine
nobody questioned it as I photograph parcel with the front door open as proof
That's just proof you stood in front of an open door, not that you handed the parcel over to the customer? What you are gaining by not obtaining a signature, just saving time which RM clearly don't want you to save.
No I dont want anyone else handling my PDA
Think it's only going to be a matter of time before RM crackdown on the excessive use of DWS. My guess is that they're getting way too many complaints from the larger customers about not getting a signature
GRS
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Re: RMCtv : Capture Photo on Delivery - all Special Delivery Guaranteed and RM Tracked Signature items now included

Post by GRS »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 19:28
eastie wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 17:15
TopperGas wrote:
02 Mar 2023, 19:35
eastie wrote:
01 Mar 2023, 23:02
Always put DNS on mine
nobody questioned it as I photograph parcel with the front door open as proof
That's just proof you stood in front of an open door, not that you handed the parcel over to the customer? What you are gaining by not obtaining a signature, just saving time which RM clearly don't want you to save.
No I dont want anyone else handling my PDA
Think it's only going to be a matter of time before RM crackdown on the excessive use of DWS. My guess is that they're getting way too many complaints from the larger customers about not getting a signature
This obsession that RM have with gaining signatures is odd. I thought that their main aim is to be like Evri, DPD, Amazon etc. Well none of these companies gain a signature from a customer and in fact they just take a photo of an item sitting on the path in the rain. Can't believe that if a customer sends by RM they insist on a signature and a photo yet if they use another courier they couldn't give two sh***s if it's even at the right house let alone sitting out in the rain for six hours. If we should have learnt one thing from COVID it's that handing a device between 100 odd people in a relatively short time frame with no way of cleaning it is not a particularly good idea. You hear people flushing the bog, people preparing food like raw meat, parents changing babies nappies, carers doing goodness knows what wearing disposable gloves all answering the door to you and handling the PDA. It's really something that needs done away with.