Who believes mail volumes are falling?

[thekiddykid]

Mail volumes are most definitely falling .......... thats why we had to cut off IPS at 8.25am today with 14 YORKS of MS3 untouched Not even the tooth fairy could help us in Worcs today

[mailman71]

any delivery postie will tell you that the mail is up not down,so its time the union told them to stick their proposed summer deliveries ie flexability up their ar-e.

[Tman]

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quote="dogfood"]Tman and Night Tonic are displaying the blind idiotic attitude of management and accountants. They are both only looking at numbers and not the reality happening all around them

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I'm basing my argument on what I see around me, and that is the automation isn't processing as much mail. Nothing to do with shiny leaflets from PHQ, or DVDs from the upper echelons, but simple numbers and stats outputted by machines at the shift's end.
We are losing our market share, fact.

[DGP1]

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quote="dogfood"]Tman and Night Tonic are displaying the blind idiotic attitude of management and accountants. They are both only looking at numbers and not the reality happening all around them

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I'm basing my argument on what I see around me, and that is the automation isn't processing as much mail. Nothing to do with shiny leaflets from PHQ, or DVDs from the upper echelons, but simple numbers and stats outputted by machines at the shift's end.
We are losing our market share, fact.

We're delivering more mail than ever, have you thought that your MC is getting less mail because it's going to be closed down.

[norbert]

Who invited cantwipeandshites back into the adults conversation

such brilliant industrial political analysis -RM just cut and cut and cut

RE NUM STRIKE the pits would have been closed anyway , everything was rigged for the dash for gas , profitable pits were deliberately closed down so as to provoke /orchestrate strikes , but WW1 General Scargill lacked guile & wit .

Thatcher had been spoiling for a strike , stockpiles were deliberately arranged , also the NUM had brought Heath down in 74 , those Tories are vindictive b**tards and that bitch wanted revenge .

Sorry but that imbellic idea of miners coming in half an early unpaid would NOT have worked and I fail to see how the same would benefit the Post Office , RM would simply cut further , either they pay people for a service provided or you get some cheap second rate one if RM are not prepared to pay end of .

Any more "brilliant incisive" Tory political insight and comment ?

[Tman]

We're delivering more mail than ever, have you thought that your MC is getting less mail because it's going to be closed down

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No I haven't, and unless plans have changed in the last five months, it isn't.
Have you thought you might be delivering more mail due to less posties, or unequal walks?

[Night Tonic]

Well I can only say that 'Economics' and the difference between 'mail volume' and 'sacks of mail' is wasted on some - its all about density of profitable work - not quantity - or in laymans terms - like tipping a pint of beer into a two pint glass, topping it up with water and saying its two pints of beer.

[Bernardson]

I was having this discussion with two of my younger colleagues just yesterday as it was a mega heavy day. In all the years I've been a postman I can't recall eversaying 'that this year was easier than the last'. Its true the nature of the work has changed less stamped and meter mail , more packets and bulk posting, postal voting and council tax.
My walk was 3.5 hours when we went to once over the ground now it regulary takes me 4 and a half hours, yesterday I cut off for the first time in months normaly I'll book or if I'm over under half an hour I won't bother.
Depite seeing all the propagander about new delivery aids I imagine that I'll still be humping pouches about in another ten years time!

[Big Daz]

To the peeps who vote YES please explain your answer.

local variations?

[Big Daz]

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quote="dogfood"]Tman and Night Tonic are displaying the blind idiotic attitude of management and accountants. They are both only looking at numbers and not the reality happening all around them

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I'm basing my argument on what I see around me, and that is the automation isn't processing as much mail. Nothing to do with shiny leaflets from PHQ, or DVDs from the upper echelons, but simple numbers and stats outputted by machines at the shift's end.
We are losing our market share, fact.

What would your answer be if there was no such thing as DSA?

[Big Daz]

Problem is that once you break down the mail reduction figures to a walk level its fairly small and not enough to have any impact on the walk.

Therefore its impossible to make walks any bigger and make savings, which is why we such a big push to technology in the form of walk sorting machines.

[Night Tonic]

The UK addressed mail market was worth around £6.8 billion in 2006/07. Mail volumes amounted to 21.9 billion items, down 2% on the previous year.

That includes downstream access too.

[DGP1]

The UK addressed mail market was worth around £6.8 billion in 2006/07. Mail volumes amounted to 21.9 billion items, down 2% on the previous year.

That includes downstream access too.

And where did you get this information from?? Would it be from RM (or one of the companies that they pay to give them that information)?

[Night Tonic]

Take your pick. Anywhere except here. You won't find a country in the world that isn't seeing volumes fall.

[DGP1]

Take your pick. Anywhere except here. You won't find a country in the world that isn't seeing volumes fall.

Please give me the details of where because if it comes from RM then (because they lie so often) I'll choose not to believe them.

All I read from you is exactly what I hear from RM all the time ie. mail volumes are falling anything from 2% to 6% per annum but again in my DO volumes have gone up by 25%