Later finishing times

[rambo1]

we have been on 15.15 finish for deliveries and 15.45 for rurals for a while now so I guess we will have a bit of a change but not so much - neighboring offices still finish at 2pm - I guess they will feel it more than us

And guess what we had all the stamping of feet and I have to finish people who were going to leave because of it and none did

end of the day this is still a very well paid job for what we do - and out of school clubs exist in this day and age - people can and will adapt once they see the alternatives out there in the real working world

Those are the plain facts from my opinion - yours may be different

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[Ozzvaldo]

The later finishing time proposal will simply enhance the scope for bullying and harassment by the Gestapo in my unit. We already have a 3pm finish time now and witness heated daily battles by those wishing to finish on time to convince the head honchos that the workload is too heavy.

I work in a fairly isolated town which has poor shopping facilities and hence a lot of people order from the internet and so shops close down....so people have to order more from the internet etc. Coupled with that, we still deliver Amazon parcels at sky-rocketing volumes and, quite frankly, have an absolutely crap service from our MC which dispatches the majority of our mail on our last wagon which is scheduled to leave on its 90 minute journey AFTER every other offices wagons, including those a mere 15 minute drive away.

Many of our shared van duties even now do not put first letter through until 10.30, or later, on busy days and thus have to cut off the first delivery to deliver SDs on the 2nd before 1pm, and at some point return to the 1st delivery, thus putting time into the delivery. This is compounded by the fact that 4 of our shared duties have deliveries that are at least a mile apart due to the geographical layout of our delivery area. This is only going to be more of a problem with a half hour or more delay tacked on. Arguing with the DOM about this is like plaiting fog as his standard response is, "Well, you've got a van!" as though Vauxhall Combos come ready equipped with Star Trek-esque warp speed capabilities.

Winter, and particularly Christmas, will also be interesting as many staff will be reluctant to navigate dog s**t-laden (perhaps a little over-emotional ) streets, school run traffic and bad weather, including snow and ice, as the darkness sets in beyond their finishing times.

Our bullying management will be licking their chops already.

That's the point, you'll just have your start time realigned to what time you get your mail. I.e start much later so you're not kicking your heels waiting for mail in the morning.

I understand that, and don't think I said anything to the contrary in my post. My point was about the potential for even more conflict in late DOs when the released agreement churns out the usual guff about creating a decent workplace culture. We certainly don't have it in my office now, in spite of Royal Mail HR and the CWU sending representatives from outside the area to carry out an exhaustive joint investigation involving interviews with every member of staff re bullying and harassment in my unit.