This time next year...

[falkor]

USO removed from first class mail, VR offered business wide leading to a mass exodus of staff, union loses tens of thousands of members and is weakened to the extent that all future negotiations between management and the union will be concluded without KY jelly.

[dvbuk55]

union loses tens of thousands of members and is weakened to the extent that all future negotiations between management and the union will be concluded without KY jelly.

Already on that rocky road and desperately wondering how to screw more money out of a dwindling membership and they haven't needed the KY for 4 or 5 years I believe the standard RM gift to the union bods was a:

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[DB1100]

I would like to see Royal mail successfully sued for the damage it has done to our bodies with Park and loop,obviously not all offices have had crazy revisions (London) but from what I hear and talking to other postal workers when I go on courses it seems a lot have.

You are quite right ,but whilst the CWU agrees to it nothing can be done .!

Look how things have changed for the mineworkers,all those thing's they said were *wear and tear* they have been able to get compensation for i.e deafness and vibration white finger,so I should think thing's might go the same way for us for thing's like ,Knackered knee's,hip joints plantar facilitis,bunions and other injuries associated with excessive walking.

Well I think that's most unlikely. It would be extremely difficult to say whether the injury to hips, knees, ankles etc was attributable to walking as a postman or a more leisurely pursuit such as walking the dog, playing sport or some other physical pursuit and whether or not it was normal wear and tear over a long period. Miners could claim for lung disease attributable to coal dust, deafness attributable to noisy machinery and white finger for the use of pneumatic drills but walking is an everyday activity.

Not to the extent we do it,also there is the possibility of increased skin cancer risks due to the fact that we are made to go against government advice concerning the hottest part of the day,my brother has had a decent payout from the MOD because he was in Aden on active service when the war was on and that's when they believe he got his skin cancer and that was in the late 60's,got diagnosed with it about 4 years ago,there's a lot of veterans getting payouts for over exposure to the sun and I think it's going to be quite a problem for us in later life.

[fishtank]

In order to seek compensation you have to prove negligence whether by deliberate act, inaction or failure to properly risk assess.

Royal Mail have done the long term fatigue studies and continuosly monitor long term work related injuries. Whether you agree with the conclusions or not what that means is they would then be able to hold up their hands and say they did all they could to minimise any risk given the information they had at hand.

Unless you could find a smoking gun that said Royal Mail knew about the risks and chose to ignore or hide those risks you wouldn't have much chance of success.

It might be easier for old timers because when I started to be honest the business couldn't spell health and safety never mind implement it but proving that would be difficult without a diary of incidents, some internal paperwork and a shitload of witnesses, some of which I would have to bring back to life first.

[dvbuk55]

Not to the extent we do it,also there is the possibility of increased skin cancer risks due to the fact that we are made to go against government advice concerning the hottest part of the day,my brother has had a decent payout from the MOD because he was in Aden on active service when the war was on and that's when they believe he got his skin cancer and that was in the late 60's,got diagnosed with it about 4 years ago,there's a lot of veterans getting payouts for over exposure to the sun and I think it's going to be quite a problem for us in later life.

Well you see it's horses for courses DB, I too served in hot climates in the 60s and at no time was skin cancer mentioned nor protection from the sun because nobody actually equated skin cancer with exposure to the sun for years on end at that time. Now of course people are well aware of the risks and can take precautions against it. That's not to say that it won't happen but people being aware of it means they are more likely to seek advice much earlier. In the same way if you didn't have a bullet proof vest and was shot could you claim negligence when in those days there was no bullet proof vest issued to soldiers, at least not our soldiers.