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The ghost of RM Christmas past. How i miss it.

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Lincox
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Re: The ghost of RM Christmas past. How i miss it.

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30 to 40000 more vehicles on the road, consuming fuel, servicing, cost of replacing is just a starter. More managers on higher incomes and bonuses. Computerisation probably millions per year, PDAs. More levels of senior management swallowing up huge salaries and bonuses. Business rates are probably a lot higher. Then you get to total mismanagement of the business, money thrown away on the likes of being the best in the World whatever it is called.Modernisation practices such as walk sequenced mail that has cost a fortune but provides probably less than 60% of our mail actually being sequenced and saving time. You could go on and on with this company but we have had success governments that have allowed them to carry on throwing money away. Then you get to increased competition which has lost them revenue.
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Re: The ghost of RM Christmas past. How i miss it.

Post by Tman »

In fact I used to go home, have a couple of hours kip, have a shower and meet the lads down the local and we would grin that we were still being paid OT. :Very Happy
Haha we used to do this regularly on Fridays. Do some second deliveries or half a walk on OT, meet in the pub at 1pm and have a laugh that RM was buying our beer for the next few hours! And they still made 800-900m profit every year.
Yep, the Good old Days. I really can't think why things would have changed though.. :silenced
dvbuk55
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Re: The ghost of RM Christmas past. How i miss it.

Post by dvbuk55 »

Tman wrote:
In fact I used to go home, have a couple of hours kip, have a shower and meet the lads down the local and we would grin that we were still being paid OT. :Very Happy
Haha we used to do this regularly on Fridays. Do some second deliveries or half a walk on OT, meet in the pub at 1pm and have a laugh that RM was buying our beer for the next few hours! And they still made 800-900m profit every year.
Yep, the Good old Days. I really can't think why things would have changed though.. :silenced
Really? I'd have thought it was obvious to a man of your business acumen :cuppa
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Re: The ghost of RM Christmas past. How i miss it.

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OnAFlyer wrote: so where is the money being lost?
I think that DSA killed the business. :hmmmm
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Re: The ghost of RM Christmas past. How i miss it.

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Tman wrote:
In fact I used to go home, have a couple of hours kip, have a shower and meet the lads down the local and we would grin that we were still being paid OT. :Very Happy
Haha we used to do this regularly on Fridays. Do some second deliveries or half a walk on OT, meet in the pub at 1pm and have a laugh that RM was buying our beer for the next few hours! And they still made 800-900m profit every year.
Yep, the Good old Days. I really can't think why things would have changed though.. :silenced
:Very Happy

Yes I know it was un real but it was just a couple of weeks a year. No DSA so all premium paid mail. Royal Mail prob made 2 months profit in those xmas weeks so it was like giving something back to the staff.
Rows of houses all bearing down on me........I can feel their blue hands touching me.......All these things in all positions.........All these things will one day take control..........
dvbuk55
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Re: The ghost of RM Christmas past. How i miss it.

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krussel wrote:
OnAFlyer wrote: so where is the money being lost?
I think that DSA killed the business. :hmmmm
No not the DSA kruss, it's been badly managed for a good number of years. There's been a lack of real planning and poor judgement at the highest level. The amount of work necessary to reach the targets set is beyond the pale. Even worse the amount of part time employees now required to work beyond their contracted hours to either make a decent wage or because they simply cannot complete the duties in the time allowed and are then cheated out of overtime and nobody seems to give a toss.
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Re: The ghost of RM Christmas past. How i miss it.

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dvbuk55 wrote:
krussel wrote:
OnAFlyer wrote: so where is the money being lost?
I think that DSA killed the business. :hmmmm
No not the DSA kruss, it's been badly managed for a good number of years. There's been a lack of real planning and poor judgement at the highest level. The amount of work necessary to reach the targets set is beyond the pale. Even worse the amount of part time employees now required to work beyond their contracted hours to either make a decent wage or because they simply cannot complete the duties in the time allowed and are then cheated out of overtime and nobody seems to give a toss.
Yes there is that of course. :thumbup

In my office the 30 hour contacts seem to get around within time. Its us slower / older / longer service guys which tend to book the odd 30-40 mind extended.
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Post by GT750rider »

Lincox wrote:30 to 40000 more vehicles on the road, consuming fuel, servicing, cost of replacing is just a starter. .
Just as now that Cheltenham's mail comes from Bristol Mail Centre, you've got upwards of 10 or more trips to Chelt. per night. It's approx. 37 miles from Bristol MC to Cheltenham DO, whereas it's 8 from the old Gloucester MC. So 10 x 37 = 370 miles as opposed to 80. That's each way, so x by 2 for the overall figure.
Of course, this is replicated up and down the country. RM's fuel bill must be astronomical, not to mention wear and tear on the vehicles.
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Re: The ghost of RM Christmas past. How i miss it.

Post by Postie45 »

forgetting just christmas, but back about 10 years ago, the average duty on an average day would have about 4-5 comfortable pouches - and that would be it - oversize packets would go to a driving duty. Once that was delivered (average duty 2.75 hours), come back to the office for break then second delivery which consisted of about 10 letters (yes, really if you didnt work for RM back then).
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Re: The ghost of RM Christmas past. How i miss it.

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let's not forget RM's generosity at Christmas

Like that year they gave us a packet of seeds
dvbuk55
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Re: The ghost of RM Christmas past. How i miss it.

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old-postie wrote:let's not forget RM's generosity at Christmas

Like that year they gave us a packet of seeds
Well it was a gesture albeit misplaced still it's quickly denigrated into nothing in a packet. They didn't come from RM but from Suttons as a thank you. RM only distributed them.
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Re: The ghost of RM Christmas past. How i miss it.

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dvbuk55 wrote:
old-postie wrote:let's not forget RM's generosity at Christmas

Like that year they gave us a packet of seeds
Well it was a gesture albeit misplaced still it's quickly denigrated into nothing in a packet. They didn't come from RM but from Suttons as a thank you. RM only distributed them.
Well I never knew that - thanks dvbuk55
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Re: The ghost of RM Christmas past. How i miss it.

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dvbuk55 wrote:
old-postie wrote:let's not forget RM's generosity at Christmas

Like that year they gave us a packet of seeds
Well it was a gesture albeit misplaced still it's quickly denigrated into nothing in a packet. They didn't come from RM but from Suttons as a thank you. RM only distributed them.
Yeah I rem. Did they not hold them back until Christmas week though. :hmmmm
Rows of houses all bearing down on me........I can feel their blue hands touching me.......All these things in all positions.........All these things will one day take control..........