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Test Packets - Entrapment ?

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NewPostieUK
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Re: Test Packets - Entrapment ?

Post by NewPostieUK »

OnAFlyer wrote: In ours the PT staff start at 8.45, their walks are already thrown off by the P&L partner so it's just finishing off any last bits of prep and tying up.
Are the packets done as well? My duty is often nearly all thrown in but the packets are never touched. It takes me up to an hour to do the packets, redirections and band up. There are usually packets for duties who have left, often tracked, and they just get left. I've gone for my specials at 10:30 before to find a missorted special. The person had left 90 mins earlier, and no I couldn't take it, no idea where it was and no time anyway.
OnAFlyer
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Re: Test Packets - Entrapment ?

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NewPostieUK wrote:
OnAFlyer wrote: In ours the PT staff start at 8.45, their walks are already thrown off by the P&L partner so it's just finishing off any last bits of prep and tying up.
Are the packets done as well? My duty is often nearly all thrown in but the packets are never touched. It takes me up to an hour to do the packets, redirections and band up. There are usually packets for duties who have left, often tracked, and they just get left. I've gone for my specials at 10:30 before to find a missorted special. The person had left 90 mins earlier, and no I couldn't take it, no idea where it was and no time anyway.
All PT staff work with a FT on P&L, the FT preps both walks instead of going on IPS. So even if the walks aren't fully prepped when the PT'er comes in there are two of them to finish off the walks.

Ps: You must have a serious amount of packets to take an hour to do them and tie up! It's about half that in my office on the vast majority of walks.

The Tracked is another thing I don't understand, there is no way a single Tracked would EVER get left in our office, not a chance.
Bahia Feliz
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Re: Test Packets - Entrapment ?

Post by Bahia Feliz »

OnAFlyer wrote:
Ps: You must have a serious amount of packets to take an hour to do them and tie up! It's about half that in my office on the vast majority of walks..
So OnAFlyer,You are saying that you can tip & sort 2 or 3 bags of packets,do your redirections/kill offs etc AND tie up in 30 minutes?
on_the_way_OUT
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Re: Test Packets - Entrapment ?

Post by on_the_way_OUT »

OnAFlyer wrote:I don't understand how one company can be run so differently in different offices.
Same here! I guess you can put it down to DOM's and their megalomaniac tendancies when running their own personal fiefdoms.

Our DIM was off for a couple of weeks sick? and 1 of the guys did something that we do all the time with our usual DIM's knowledge and consent. Covering DIM saw and hauled him in the office talking about conduct code. It was only after lino said that's the way this office does it that he got let off.
on_the_way_OUT
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Re: Test Packets - Entrapment ?

Post by on_the_way_OUT »

Bahia Feliz wrote:
OnAFlyer wrote:
Ps: You must have a serious amount of packets to take an hour to do them and tie up! It's about half that in my office on the vast majority of walks..
So OnAFlyer,You are saying that you can tip & sort 2 or 3 bags of packets,do your redirections/kill offs etc AND tie up in 30 minutes?
Depending on the workload.... I reckon that's doable.

Edit: Don't the Mail Centre do your deads? Can't remember the last time I had more than 5 yes five!
Bahia Feliz
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Re: Test Packets - Entrapment ?

Post by Bahia Feliz »

on_the_way_OUT wrote: Don't the Mail Centre do your deads?
No!
OnAFlyer
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Re: Test Packets - Entrapment ?

Post by OnAFlyer »

Bahia Feliz wrote:
OnAFlyer wrote:
Ps: You must have a serious amount of packets to take an hour to do them and tie up! It's about half that in my office on the vast majority of walks..
So OnAFlyer,You are saying that you can tip & sort 2 or 3 bags of packets,do your redirections/kill offs etc AND tie up in 30 minutes?
Yes. There's no way it should be taking an hour.
patpat856
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Re: Test Packets - Entrapment ?

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I put deads straight in the letter bag and only put a red sticker on if they turn up next day( about 10% ).
Bahia Feliz
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Re: Test Packets - Entrapment ?

Post by Bahia Feliz »

patpat856 wrote:I put deads straight in the letter bag and only put a red sticker on if they turn up next day( about 10% ).
But all the deads you get would have gone to the mail centre 1st before they got to you!
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Re: Test Packets - Entrapment ?

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Bahia Feliz wrote:
patpat856 wrote:I put deads straight in the letter bag and only put a red sticker on if they turn up next day( about 10% ).
But all the deads you get would have gone to the mail centre 1st before they got to you!
They are collected from my boxes on my round so they haven't been to the mail centre yet.
Bahia Feliz
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Re: Test Packets - Entrapment ?

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patpat856 wrote:
Bahia Feliz wrote:
patpat856 wrote:I put deads straight in the letter bag and only put a red sticker on if they turn up next day( about 10% ).
But all the deads you get would have gone to the mail centre 1st before they got to you!
They are collected from my boxes on my round so they haven't been to the mail centre yet.
But the deads that come to your delivery in the mornings have come via the m/c 1st yes?
IcanthelpthewayIam
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Re: Test Packets - Entrapment ?

Post by IcanthelpthewayIam »

Bahia Feliz wrote:
patpat856 wrote:
Bahia Feliz wrote:
patpat856 wrote:I put deads straight in the letter bag and only put a red sticker on if they turn up next day( about 10% ).
But all the deads you get would have gone to the mail centre 1st before they got to you!
They are collected from my boxes on my round so they haven't been to the mail centre yet.
But the deads that come to your delivery in the mornings have come via the m/c 1st yes?
Apart from the ones that have come in where customer has already attempted to send them back, what do you do with letters where you know a person has moved away?
patpat856
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Re: Test Packets - Entrapment ?

Post by patpat856 »

zx135 wrote:
Bahia Feliz wrote:
patpat856 wrote:
Bahia Feliz wrote:
patpat856 wrote:I put deads straight in the letter bag and only put a red sticker on if they turn up next day( about 10% ).
But all the deads you get would have gone to the mail centre 1st before they got to you!
They are collected from my boxes on my round so they haven't been to the mail centre yet.
But the deads that come to your delivery in the mornings have come via the m/c 1st yes?
Apart from the ones that have come in where customer has already attempted to send them back, what do you do with letters where you know a person has moved away?
I deliver everything unless there is a re-direction and if they complain I tell them to write gone away on them.
Lounge Lizard
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Re: Test Packets - Entrapment ?

Post by Lounge Lizard »

patpat856 wrote:
zx135 wrote:
Bahia Feliz wrote:
patpat856 wrote:
Bahia Feliz wrote:
patpat856 wrote:I put deads straight in the letter bag and only put a red sticker on if they turn up next day( about 10% ).
But all the deads you get would have gone to the mail centre 1st before they got to you!
They are collected from my boxes on my round so they haven't been to the mail centre yet.
But the deads that come to your delivery in the mornings have come via the m/c 1st yes?
Apart from the ones that have come in where customer has already attempted to send them back, what do you do with letters where you know a person has moved away?
I deliver everything unless there is a re-direction and if they complain I tell them to write gone away on them.
Me too. :Applause
And colleagues who routinely 'kill off' items after a redirection has ended have been in trouble when that redirection has covered a temporary absence of maybe three months :sad: apart from which the old resident might have arranged for the new resident to pass on the mail to them. :shock: