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TNT in Liverpool

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Lounge Lizard wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:
Brain Fury wrote:It's very dangerous to be complacent about TNTs aspirations or capabilities. Or to expect OFCOM to do anything to stop them. Glasgow soon.
Exactly what are we going to do about it both as employees and union members, particularly union members when the CWU is recruiting TNT staff to boost membership from falling numbers in RM? It's inevitable that parts of delivery will be cherry picked. Perhaps RM will take a leaf out of TNTs modus operandi and do three day alternate deliveries - who knows. I say again what are we going to do about it .............it may even be part of the AFG 2014 how would we know?
RM would surely like to take a leaf out of TNTs modus operandi and pay us all the minimum wage. :sad:
And if they have Bill and Dave on board ............not THE board.................welcome to the food bank
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When it comes to end to end deliveries for letters the only way to proctect the USO is to have one nationwide provider. TNT are destroying the USO more so every time they expand their abysmal service a round the country.
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I don,t thinkit helps having a massive advertisment banner on the bottom and sometimes top for TNT on this site!!!!!!!!!!
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haveagojoe wrote:I don,t thinkit helps having a massive advertisment banner on the bottom and sometimes top for TNT on this site!!!!!!!!!!
I see adverts for women's underwear all over the place but it doesn't mean I'm going to start buying it to wear........again :chuckle
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daveyeff wrote:
clashcityrocker wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote: I say again what are we going to do about it .............it may even be part of the AFG 2014 how would we know?
Moya has been lobbying MPs and the business is writing a stern letter to Ofcom asking them to put a stop to all TNTs naughty cherry-picking.
And that I think is about it.
Oh and we are getting rid of about 1300 non operational managers.
aye, they are world class mail managers ( or ''continued efficiency programme ) as its now known. also they are dropping cwu people who are involved with it. squeeky bum time for some then.
WCM and the "continued efficient programme" are not the same thing. Nobody knows which jobs are going until the new structure is released in mid-April but WCM isn't going away so the job cuts are unlikely to have any effect on CWU grades involved with it. The use of the phrase "continued efficiency" signals that RM has been told by Ofcom that it must have done all it can to improve efficiency before Ofcom will involve itself with the growth of TNT direct delivery. The 1300 job cuts are surely just the first step in "continued efficiency".
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our dom seems to think it is,,,,and the courier put flyers out yesterday. cwu grades involved will go. when asked what world class mail actually was, the reply was continued improvement and efficiency. its been confirmed on here so many times. so to recap, continued improvement and efficiency=wcm.......it will go away. when they realise how much money is being thrown down the pan at this garbage.
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Looking like it's squeaky bum time for Brain, could he be in the firing line or is he too important for the bullet. I think he's wrong about WCM because you don't need coloured charts and those intellectually challenged with crayons to improve efficiency: what you need is commitment and a really efficient work plan and RM has neither despite the hail fellow well met with the Union.
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daveyeff wrote:our dom seems to think it is,,,,and the courier put flyers out yesterday. cwu grades involved will go. when asked what world class mail actually was, the reply was continued improvement and efficiency. its been confirmed on here so many times. so to recap, continued improvement and efficiency=wcm.......it will go away. when they realise how much money is being thrown down the pan at this garbage.
Perhaps I've misunderstood so just to be clear, are you saying that the 1300 job cuts and specifically the CWU grades affected are those involved in WCM?
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dvbuk55 wrote:Looking like it's squeaky bum time for Brain, could he be in the firing line or is he too important for the bullet. I think he's wrong about WCM because you don't need coloured charts and those intellectually challenged with crayons to improve efficiency: what you need is commitment and a really efficient work plan and RM has neither despite the hail fellow well met with the Union.
I have absolutely no involvement in WCM but I am absolutely sure that I am "in the firing line". As it happens that suits me down to the ground.
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Brain Fury wrote:
daveyeff wrote:our dom seems to think it is,,,,and the courier put flyers out yesterday. cwu grades involved will go. when asked what world class mail actually was, the reply was continued improvement and efficiency. its been confirmed on here so many times. so to recap, continued improvement and efficiency=wcm.......it will go away. when they realise how much money is being thrown down the pan at this garbage.
Perhaps I've misunderstood so just to be clear, are you saying that the 1300 job cuts and specifically the CWU grades affected are those involved in WCM?
yes. did you not see the courier newsflash.
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haveagojoe wrote:I don,t thinkit helps having a massive advertisment banner on the bottom and sometimes top for TNT on this site!!!!!!!!!!
Adblock will stop you seeing the offensive crap especially as you are on Fire-fox -

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Brain Fury wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:Looking like it's squeaky bum time for Brain, could he be in the firing line or is he too important for the bullet. I think he's wrong about WCM because you don't need coloured charts and those intellectually challenged with crayons to improve efficiency: what you need is commitment and a really efficient work plan and RM has neither despite the hail fellow well met with the Union.
I have absolutely no involvement in WCM but I am absolutely sure that I am "in the firing line". As it happens that suits me down to the ground.
Well it might not. Being a manager at RM is not quite the stairway to success because the business has quite a narrow base of experience to take somewhere else. I once remember one manager saying how RM managers were a prize asset outside RM and were being "head hunted", he did retire on ill health though. :cuppa
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dvbuk55 wrote:
Brain Fury wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:Looking like it's squeaky bum time for Brain, could he be in the firing line or is he too important for the bullet. I think he's wrong about WCM because you don't need coloured charts and those intellectually challenged with crayons to improve efficiency: what you need is commitment and a really efficient work plan and RM has neither despite the hail fellow well met with the Union.
I have absolutely no involvement in WCM but I am absolutely sure that I am "in the firing line". As it happens that suits me down to the ground.
Well it might not. Being a manager at RM is not quite the stairway to success because the business has quite a narrow base of experience to take somewhere else. I once remember one manager saying how RM managers were a prize asset outside RM and were being "head hunted", he did retire on ill health though. :cuppa
I don't think "Brain" is an operational manager so he may well have some marketable managerial skills. Unlike the average DO Team Leader whose main skill is high scoring on Candy Crush Saga. :whistle :nervous :nervous
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daveyeff wrote:
Perhaps I've misunderstood so just to be clear, are you saying that the 1300 job cuts and specifically the CWU grades affected are those involved in WCM?
yes. did you not see the courier newsflash.[/quote]
Have you got the exact wording of the Courier newsflash?
I read it but your understanding of the content is completely different to mine.
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