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Thixty · Post by **Thixty** » 21 Jun 2012, 09:47

doesnt really work when the driver i was with wanted to work over to finish and there not a snowballs chance in hell ill work over my time which left me in the position of leaving him to get a bus back to the office !? wheres the fairness in that ? supposed to be a "van share"

5plusbonusball · Post by **5plusbonusball** » 21 Jun 2012, 13:05

Any idea how long we should all

cos it's getting us nowhere. Somethings going to snap very soon. I'm gathering info from here daily and ready for the fight.

bensonhedge · Post by **bensonhedge** » 21 Jun 2012, 17:20

bloke i,m paired with at the moment is so so slow.insists on using his trolley just to piss me off i think!!

P13 · Post by **P13** » 21 Jun 2012, 17:29

bensonhedge wrote:bloke i,m paired with at the moment is so so slow.insists on using his trolley just to piss me off i think!!

Trolleys are mandatory that is why he is using it

bensonhedge · Post by **bensonhedge** » 21 Jun 2012, 17:44

P13 wrote:
bensonhedge wrote:bloke i,m paired with at the moment is so so slow.insists on using his trolley just to piss me off i think!!
Trolleys are mandatory that is why he is using it

postypie · Post by **postypie** » 21 Jun 2012, 18:03

Yeah..lets sack anyone over the age of say 30...us young ones have it hard so sack them grey haired posties(or baldies) as they slow us down and are no good to the business....no my name isn't DALEK ..exterminate them..exterminate them!

Where do ROYAL MAIL get these plonkers from?

mailman71 · Post by **mailman71** » 21 Jun 2012, 18:47

im the oldest and slowest guy in the office but i dont give a monkeys,i've seen plenty of runners and flappers over the years and they dont last work your hours and thats it.

postypie · Post by **postypie** » 21 Jun 2012, 19:13

mailman71 wrote:im the oldest and slowest guy in the office but i dont give a monkeys,i've seen plenty of runners and flappers over the years and they dont last work your hours and thats it.

Agree 100% mate..the thing is these young ones nowadays are all SELF,SELF,SELF,SELF...and these are the Future of RM...god help the company...and generally speaking from what i have seen..most of this new breed of RM ...'workers' are the ones who use their car,run around like headless chickens,start late,slag other posties off behind their backs,don't drink,don't smoke, don't like footy,(computer games are the 'in thing' with these idiots),..oh i could go on and on..so many of them are gaffers favorites and have more faces than Big Ben.... they can also do overtime..leave most of the mail in and get away with it...can't stand this 'new breed of postie'.

Post by **POSTMAN** » 21 Jun 2012, 19:59

It is also nothing to do with age sometimes,there are youngens at my place that you have to wake up when they walk as they are just plodders,oldens who seem to jog they walk so fast,everyone has a different pace with whatever they do.

clashcityrocker · Post by **clashcityrocker** » 21 Jun 2012, 21:32

There is one eye in penis.

Post by **flaminmoses** » 22 Jun 2012, 16:50

if this is happening on a daily basis then claim ot or cut off

Thixty · Post by **Thixty** » 22 Jun 2012, 17:40

got my duty changed now im with a flapper who doesnt take his break ect and its doing his head in hahaha

Budfrog · Post by **Budfrog** » 23 Jun 2012, 12:58

I doubt RM would ever consider that with the NRA being increased to 66 and with OPGs now entitled to work until they wish (beyond 66) EP aspirations should be adjusted to match the average age of the workforce while keeping the Planning Values as they are.

Its not an approach they are ever like to adopt as they continue to pressurise people to work harder and bully those that do not toe the line. Strictly speaking every employee should be capable of achieving a 75Bs performance ... but no more as employees are non-piecework and do not have a financial bonus based on output.

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 23 Jun 2012, 14:46

Which is why I am nervous of the Union accepting 100BSI and even higher. I firmly believe that this is the first move of Royal Mail into eventually Posties being paid per item delivered - they already do it in Holland. 2 postal service companies Sandd and Selekt Mail do it

Budfrog · Post by **Budfrog** » 23 Jun 2012, 15:39

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:Which is why I am nervous of the Union accepting 100BSI and even higher. I firmly believe that this is the first move of Royal Mail into eventually Posties being paid per item delivered - they already do it in Holland. 2 postal service companies Sandd and Selekt Mail do it

The Union should not even be talking about 100Bs as that workrate is usually achieved over a shift by stff on piecework or output related bonus. If the Union were to accept that type of target I would expect some very hefty payrise to be negotiated at the same time but would still question whether it is appropriate for a customer facing job like deliveries ... mail centre work is another argument.

CWU should have their own Industrial Engineers to advise them and they should also audit RM planning values, tools and techniques. It is unacceptable to leave everything to trust and assume that all the control systems are as they should be. I can quote you a Planning Value that has never been accurate ... Meter Segregation ... because RM didn't invest the time and money in making sure all the variables were taken into account and revisions around the country have suffered as a result.

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