Job Security, Resourcing and Managing Change Agreement

[dvbuk55]

Does look a bit like London toeing the party line.

[POSTMAN]

Kind of what i expected.
Kick out the controversial amendments that might ask a question of Royal Mail....leave in the milder stuff.
Why ask for amendments in the first place?

So is this the case that the 'oppose' has been opposed by the pec?

[fishtank]

Does look a bit like London toeing the party line.

To me it looks more like London,amongst others actually came up with amendments that would have strengthened the agreement considerably but those have been opposed by the PEC in favour of less controversial changes.
That's my honest reading of it DV but i could be wrong.

So is this the case that the 'oppose' has been opposed by the pec?

Seems so POSTMAN.

[POSTMAN]

If the 'seems so' is right and it does look that way,then what was the point and it looks like the PEC are pussies.

[dvbuk55]

If the 'seems so' is right and it does look that way,then what was the point and it looks like the PEC are pussies.

Well we all need one of those now and again

[POSTMAN]

If the 'seems so' is right and it does look that way,then what was the point and it looks like the PEC are pussies.

Well we all need one of those now and again

I've an even wittier reply but it's a family show here.

[Talell]

Kind of what i expected.
Kick out the controversial amendments that might ask a question of Royal Mail....leave in the milder stuff.
Why ask for amendments in the first place?

these agreements are exactly that, basically agreed.

the policy forum is trying to see if there are any last minute additions they could make, and to that end the pec are, probably, only looking for minor amendments that are easy to negotiate, so they can finish with these agreements and move onto the other things they are trying to negotiate.

I don't agree with it, but unfortunately this is what looks to be the case.

[dvbuk55]

If the 'seems so' is right and it does look that way,then what was the point and it looks like the PEC are pussies.

Well we all need one of those now and again

I've an even wittier reply but it's a family show here.

Well you can get in the naughty room for even thinking it, filthy pervert. I have a British Blue and he's 17 .....................

[The wanderer]

POSTAL POLICY FORUM – JUNE 2012
JOB SECURITY

All FTC’s who have served 2 years in a Mail Centre, RDC or VOC which is closing will be offered a permanent contract at a different site within reasonable travelling distance to their existing work location.

Does anyone know the definition of reasonable travelling distance?

Thanks.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

POSTAL POLICY FORUM – JUNE 2012
JOB SECURITY

All FTC’s who have served 2 years in a Mail Centre, RDC or VOC which is closing will be offered a permanent contract at a different site within reasonable travelling distance to their existing work location.

Does anyone know the definition of reasonable travelling distance?

Thanks.

London did have their own definition which Dingo Posted at http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... le#p492804" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The London joint statement details the maximum journey time that would be considered a reasonable job offer and that is 60 minutes by public transport from your home address to the new work location. This would rule out most staff from East London.

Whether that's reasonable anywhere else is open to comment but its a good place to start the discussion I would have thought.

[The wanderer]

Thanks mate.

Very helpful.

[POSTMAN]

Letter to Branches


No: 511/12 Ref: 5th July 2012

TO: ALL BRANCHES WITH POSTAL MEMBERS


Dear Colleague

CWU POSTAL POLICY FORUM 28TH JUNE - DECISIONS

Attached for information is a copy of the decisions relating to Postal Policy Forum held in Bristol on the 28th June, which were debated and carried.

Yours sincerely



Dave Ward
Deputy General Secretary (P)

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JOB SECURITY
Motion
1 Add at end:-

After the word circumstances in paragraph 3.2, insert the words “and those who are currently on or are exceeding a temporary contract of two years will be offered a permanent contract”.
Northern Ireland Combined

Carried

3 Add at end:-

(paragraph 3.3) to ensure a coherent approach is adopted across the whole Postal Sector, the six monthly reviews will take place in the same months of each calendar year; the best months for this task to take place will be agreed by the national parties.

The Postal Executive is instructed accordingly.
Eastern No.6

Carried

5 Add at end:-

In order to achieve the 75/25 full-time to part-time split the Divisional Representatives will be provided with such details for their Division. Also to be included is the number of permanent and temporary contracts for their Division. These figures will be provided every 3 months.

Greater Manchester Amal

Carried

6 3.6

Regular meetings to discuss local resourcing issues will identify whether a potential surplus staffing situation will arise. At this point consultation between Royal Mail and the CWU about how to deal with any surplus will take place in line with the Managing the Surplus Framework Agreement. Where it is jointly identified through this process that there is a need for a number of VRs, the provisions of MTSF will again apply and that this application cannot in its self be discriminatory whether on age, gender, sexual orientation race or disability. Where the numbers legally require it, a formal HR1 letter will be provided to CWU Headquarters and this will explain the reasons for proposed redundancies. The letter will also confirm that CWU reps are aware of the proposal and that discussions are taking place in line with the Industrial Relations Framework and other relevant national agreements.
South Central Postal

Carried

7 Insert prior a new paragraph prior to this job security.

There will be a formal review of this agreement at National level within 6 months of this agreement being introduced. The review will ensure that nationally the 75%/25% full time to part time ratio is being maintained across all offices which have introduced a Business Transformation revision. In addition, this review will ensure that Fixed Term Contracts have been given permanent contracts where they have exceeded 2 years and that Part Timers have also been given the opportunity to increase their hours in line with the principles set out in the document.

The outcome of this review including the details of the full time ratio will be published in the communications to managers and Representatives.

East London Postal
Northern/North West London
Mount Pleasant International

Carried

8 Add at end:-

except that the Postal Executive will negotiate an agreement to ensure that Royal Mail supply staff in post figures, containing the number of full-time and part-time posts in each unit to every postal branch on a monthly basis. The Postal Executive is instructed accordingly.
Bristol and District Amal

Carried

10 Except that the review process shall contain a robust reporting and monitoring mechanism between Branches, Divisions and HQ to ensure compliance with all aspects of the agreement, and to assist in any review.

Newcastle Amal

Carried


World Class Mail
3 Except that in Para 2.2 the Change Request Process is mentioned specifically after National Generic Trial and Deployment Framework.

London Postal Engineering

Carried

9 Except that the review process shall contain a robust reporting and monitoring mechanism between Branches, Divisions and HQ to ensure compliance with all aspects of the agreement, and to assist in any review.
Newcastle Amal

Carried

10 Except that:

The terminology used within WCM be revised to be more inclusive, and open.

The reliance on acronyms and other phrases; e.g. “Kaizan” and “5W+1H”, has been found to be confusing to lay members, leading to WCM appearing as the exclusive domain of management and selected individuals, leading to the exclusion of many members and activists.

The use of simple and plain English would make WCM more understandable and less distant to all.
Leicestershire Amal

Carried

11


Add at end

That each member will receive a letter direct to their home address which explains the procedure for reporting accidents and the individual’s right to have all accidents put in the accident book. The letter will include the definition of an accident and the telephone number to report the accident to the DWP.

Greater Manchester Amal

Carried

[POSTMAN]

So help me out here,1st they weren't carried now they are?