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1st week with a bank holiday since end of d2d payments
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POSTMAN
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Re: 1st week with a bank holiday since end of d2d payments
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Guevarista
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Re: 1st week with a bank holiday since end of d2d payments
It's been appalling in our DO.. In addition to extra D2D pressure we've had the start of the Autumn/through to Chrimbo surge (electoral registration really has been the icing on the cake!) Yet we're STILL lapsing walks at least once a week... DOM tries to BS about there being no significant increase in traffic - and at the same time is unwilling and/or unable to provide a breakdown of flats v. letters. Coz let's face it, this is one of our major problems with workload measurement, both indoor and outdoor - FLATS TAKE SIGNIFICANTLY LONGER to a) sort; b) prep; c) tie up; d) deliver - not to mention the fact that a high flat count often leads to pouches having to be broken down....
Will someone in this company GET REAL ABOUT WORKLOAD.. and soon!
Will someone in this company GET REAL ABOUT WORKLOAD.. and soon!
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Big Daz
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Re: 1st week with a bank holiday since end of d2d payments
Electoral registration letters came in Saturday at my D.O and we were allowed to do them over three days. 
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gb93
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Re: 1st week with a bank holiday since end of d2d payments
Had to be done in 1 day but no lapsing because of it.
Got finished with 5 mins to spare, That was a close one.
Got finished with 5 mins to spare, That was a close one.
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Silly Sarah
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Re: 1st week with a bank holiday since end of d2d payments
For the record, I tried to claim 1 hour o/t for prepping d2d last week. My dom has refused to pay it.fishtank wrote:Yes.Silly Sarah wrote:I only work 20 hours over 5 days p/w and like everyone else in our office, I prep and deliver all the d2d on my round, apart from what the floater does. If I go over my time through prepping d2d am I entitled to claim overtime? I've heard mixed messages on this and no doubt my DOM will say "NO". Would appreciate clarification.
What have I done to deserve this?
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clashcityrocker
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Re: 1st week with a bank holiday since end of d2d payments
There is a supposed standard for the prepping of D2D.Silly Sarah wrote:
For the record, I tried to claim 1 hour o/t for prepping d2d last week. My dom has refused to pay it.
Per 500 delivery points/day
1 contract 4 mins
2 contracts 8 mins
3 contracts 10 mins
4 contracts 11 mins
5 contracts 12 mins
So if your walk had 750 delivery points and you had 2 D2D contracts, you could legitimately claim your prep took 12 minutes/day or 72 minutes over the week, if you aren't allowed sufficient prep time to do this.
Alternatively, just claim it as extended delivery until your DOM understands that D2D is now in workload.
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Silly Sarah
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Re: 1st week with a bank holiday since end of d2d payments
Claimed as extended delivery but refused. No doubt my DOM understands that I'm entitled this but it's not in his interest to pay it so it doesn't happen.clashcityrocker wrote:There is a supposed standard for the prepping of D2D.Silly Sarah wrote:
For the record, I tried to claim 1 hour o/t for prepping d2d last week. My dom has refused to pay it.
Per 500 delivery points/day
1 contract 4 mins
2 contracts 8 mins
3 contracts 10 mins
4 contracts 11 mins
5 contracts 12 mins
So if your walk had 750 delivery points and you had 2 D2D contracts, you could legitimately claim your prep took 12 minutes/day or 72 minutes over the week, if you aren't allowed sufficient prep time to do this.
Alternatively, just claim it as extended delivery until your DOM understands that D2D is now in workload.
What have I done to deserve this?
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clashcityrocker
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Re: 1st week with a bank holiday since end of d2d payments
Then it's a grievance for non-payment of overtime.
And you cut off.
And you cut off.
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Silly Sarah
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Re: 1st week with a bank holiday since end of d2d payments
Yes I've considered that and I've also considered how colleagues at our place are generally treated once they've put in a grievance. The whole grievance procedure is flawed. It's just not worth the hassle.clashcityrocker wrote:Then it's a grievance for non-payment of overtime.
And you cut off.
What have I done to deserve this?
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clashcityrocker
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Re: 1st week with a bank holiday since end of d2d payments
The grievance procedure is simply a way of formally registering that you are unhappy about something in the office.
Normally grievances are taken out against managers and normally because they are abusing their position of power.
If people are subject to harrassment in any form because they have put in a grievance then that is more reason for grievances to be put in against managers and for using the bullying and harrassment procedure.
If people abuse the procedure then the system becomes weaker.
If you have a genuine grievance what else can you do?
Either you use the system or, in your case, you accept having to work for free.
First try and talk to your manager and see if he has (in his eyes) legitimate reasons for not paying the o/t.
Talk to your rep and let him know your concerns. Talk to the area rep as well if you want.
If you feel you are being fobbed off because you are a female, then your Branch may have a woman's officer you can contact and talk to.
But don't let it rest. Even if after everything you don't get your o/t paid, you will feel better for having tried.
Normally grievances are taken out against managers and normally because they are abusing their position of power.
If people are subject to harrassment in any form because they have put in a grievance then that is more reason for grievances to be put in against managers and for using the bullying and harrassment procedure.
If people abuse the procedure then the system becomes weaker.
If you have a genuine grievance what else can you do?
Either you use the system or, in your case, you accept having to work for free.
First try and talk to your manager and see if he has (in his eyes) legitimate reasons for not paying the o/t.
Talk to your rep and let him know your concerns. Talk to the area rep as well if you want.
If you feel you are being fobbed off because you are a female, then your Branch may have a woman's officer you can contact and talk to.
But don't let it rest. Even if after everything you don't get your o/t paid, you will feel better for having tried.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.