Van sharing nightmare

[POSTMAN]

Problem is, our 'input 'is totally ignored!

Oh ok then,just walk away then and leave it.

[stokes11eg]

No, I still stick my tuppence worth in! But going back to the both SDD ande other revisions all our input has been totally dismissed-----

[Geezer]

No, I still stick my tuppence worth in! But going back to the both SDD ande other revisions all our input has been totally dismissed-----

Stokes

Then don't let the Rep sign it off SIMPLE

They can't move forward until each stage gets signed off so just refuse and let the Dom and Planner sweat it out until you get what you think is fair and right.
My Dom is getting a bollocking because we should be at stage 3 according to his boss ( DSM ) but were not happy about the way they want to use IWT, and that our APlus is not correct ect, so we have refused to even sign stage 1 off at present.

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Just to add to this we have also gone to stage 1 disagreement over resourceing of our Office ( Stoke Agreement not being followed )

[stokes11eg]

If only we had one of the good reps---,bur sadly, like BIG B--the ones we've had always buckle down to what the Management want!

[Geezer]

If only we had one of the good reps---,bur sadly, like BIG B--the ones we've had always buckle down to what the Management want!

Stokes.... This is the bit i don't get.Good Rep or not the Area Rep or whoever does not have the right to sign anything off unless your office gives them the OK to do so.
If any Rep tries to go it alone and sign off each stage without the office agreeing then you need to report it to Branch or HQ and demand something is done about them,
Try and get together as an office, talk about what's going on, and try and get people to get on-board with you and put a stop to any underhand tactics that might be taking place.
I know it's not easy, I have been pulling my teeth out trying to get people in my office to join in, some are willing, But others just want to come in, do what they've got to do and go home.
At the end of the day it's us all that have to live with any changes that are made so if we want that change to be fair and reasonable the only chance we have of that is to fight for it, we may still not get that but at least we will have tried.

[Glenno]

Can anybody confim / deny that the CWU local reps dont start signing off till stage 3
up till then its the DOM & Planner?????????????????????

[DGP1]

Can anybody confim / deny that the CWU local reps dont start signing off till stage 3
up till then its the DOM & Planner?????????????????????

According to my rep they have to sign off everything, we're already 2 months behind and have only just signed off stage 1.

[Geezer]

Glenno

Not in my office, our Office Rep is the one who says if it gets signed off or not. He has to OK it then the Area Rep can sign off but only if office Rep says so.
I'm the P/T Rep in my D/O and help with all the Revision stuff as the office Rep doesn't like computers ect. If we don't agree on something then we don't move forward end of.

( PS Thanks for the PM.... very interesting )

[Glenno]

Cheers for that will need to do some digging.... was at a meeting recently and it was stated by the Area Lead..
got copy of last weeks WTLL and it states we are at stage 2 (on me annuals) WTF still thought we were doing
A+ & mapping verification

[maisymoo04]

i have heard a little rumour (again) that the 40000 vans we have stashed away in a air craft hanger in north wales is costing royal mail £125k every 4 months to hire and security the place,geta f***** grip royal mail thats comin from a rtw source

[NWpostie]

i have heard a little rumour (again) that the 40000 vans we have stashed away in a air craft hanger in north wales is costing royal mail £125k every 4 months to hire and security the place,geta f***** grip royal mail thats comin from a rtw source

Christ ! RM really are a bunch of business retards throwing away money

[goinpostal]

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 36&t=29169" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Shared car-derived van use is where 2 or 3 staff work together to deliver their walks by operating from a vehicle. The group accelerates itself from the office to the start of the delivery in a vehicle that then acts as a nucleus, from which the group operates. The deliveries are broken-down into short ‘bursts’ that normally start and finish at the vehicle. The ‘bursts’ take approximately 20 minutes each and this results in staff spending less time working alone and allows a smaller pouch to be used. Where the road layout makes longer bursts more suitable a Lightweight Delivery Trolley (Golf trolley) should be considered as a method of reducing the weight carried.

Is this agreement still valid?

[POSTMAN]

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 36&t=29169

Shared car-derived van use is where 2 or 3 staff work together to deliver their walks by operating from a vehicle. The group accelerates itself from the office to the start of the delivery in a vehicle that then acts as a nucleus, from which the group operates. The deliveries are broken-down into short ‘bursts’ that normally start and finish at the vehicle. The ‘bursts’ take approximately 20 minutes each and this results in staff spending less time working alone and allows a smaller pouch to be used. Where the road layout makes longer bursts more suitable a Lightweight Delivery Trolley (Golf trolley) should be considered as a method of reducing the weight carried.

Is this agreement still valid?

Ohhh its definitely changed since then,Geezer put it up for info,see...
http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 42&t=26209" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;