bitchface wrote:oh dear employment law isnt your bag baby, is it.can anyone tell lovejoy what percentage of membership of a work force to any union makes recogintion mandatory
Actually perhaps you don't fully understand it as in this case with a Union currently recognised and with the law favouring single table bargaining and with the fact that for two Unions to be admissible, the unions must show that they will co-operate with each other to "secure and maintain stable effective collective bargaining arrangements". Unions who make a joint application must be willing to bargain together on behalf of workers in the bargaining unit.
http://www.unison.org.uk/bargaining/doc ... 82&pid=205" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; make recognising a 2nd Union for CWU grades difficult to say the least.
Of course you could de-recognise the Union first but there are hurdles there as well and 40% of the membership wanting to leave might be good enough for a ballot on derecognition but not enough to carry it, but even that's questionable according to the following page.
http://www.businesslink.gov.uk/bdotg/ac ... =RESOURCES" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
A worker's application to the CAC
Where a worker believes that their union no longer has the support of the bargaining unit, they can apply to the CAC to hold a secret ballot to determine whether or not collective bargaining arrangements should end.
A worker can only make such an application after three years of statutory recognition. However, unlike employers, they do not need to first make a request of the union (or even the employer) to end bargaining arrangements.
The CAC will only accept the worker's ballot application if:
it is made in the proper form
they have copied the application and any supporting documents to both you and the union
at least 10 per cent of the workers in the bargaining unit favour derecognition
a majority of the workers in the bargaining unit are likely to favour derecognition
there hasn't been a previous application for an end to the bargaining arrangements in the last three years
I think your error was in thinking that minimum numbers joining a Union and it being recognised applies when there is no recognised Union already representing the workforce. Its an easy one to make TBH.
