Thats nothing to do with lapsing in our office, It's bin like that for about 4 yrs, miserable bunch. All they do is moan about how RM treat them like s**t & only 2 out of 50 supported last wave of strikes. Only 1 in the next wave ( MOI ).mosaddler wrote:every morning i walk into the do where i work all i see is glum faces. nobody says good morning nor smile.
this lapsing and flexing has got up most if not all posties skins.
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Lapsing,something i don't get.
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che-guevara
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DirtyHarry
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Christ almighty, fair play to you Cheche-guevara wrote:Thats nothing to do with lapsing in our office, It's bin like that for about 4 yrs, miserable bunch. All they do is moan about how RM treat them like s**t & only 2 out of 50 supported last wave of strikes. Only 1 in the next wave ( MOI ).mosaddler wrote:every morning i walk into the do where i work all i see is glum faces. nobody says good morning nor smile.
this lapsing and flexing has got up most if not all posties skins.
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belle smith
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yep same in ours, but bare in mind when doing lapsing that your duty and the lapsing should both be completed within the 3.5 hour delivery span, it's not just a matter of completing within scheduled hours. If they tell you thats not the case say that is the unions position and ask if they have been through the IR framework and if not why are they bypassing the IR framework.tolkien wrote:belle smith wrote:There are 2 diffrent types of lapsing. The initial type of lapsing that you would have done is 'summer savings' which is covered under phase 2 of pay & mod, this is were a number of duties are lapsed during the summer period when annual leave is high and the volume of mail is lower than normal and a town walk that would usually be completed in 3.5 hours, can be completed quicker. According to our area rep this was only agreed for 1 year ( i'm not so sure as the other option was annulised hours, which will be ongoing.) but certainly should not be taking place outside the summer period which will be defined in your phase 2 agreement.POSTMAN wrote:Some of you are posting that 5-6-7+ walks ect are being lapsed,baring in mind lapsing is for absence does this mean you've got mass sick at your place,or if not where are the duty holders going.
We're due to laps but no one is off sick or we are not down by any numbers so we can't do it.
It doesn't make sense!
Phase 3 of pay & mod also allows for lapsing of duties. Under phase 3 your unit rep and dom are requiered to identefy were were savings can be made were the oppertunity exsists. an example of this may be factory runs were there are a high proportion of saturday shuts, a duty may be lapsed and the work distrabuted between a number of factory duties. This could happen all year round.
Where offices are lapsing large numbers of duties it will most likly being done under phase 2.
We did the So called Summer Savings for weeks untill the Pegasus revision which supposably evened all the deliveries to the Max to take us up to time ,so they stopped it for a few weeks , now that the pegasus has settled in with half making time as they had there deliveries reduced and half finishing spot on time , they have bought back the summer savings with the result that some of those who were finishing early are now nearer the correct finishing time and those that had there deliveries made larger are going way over time and cutting off or booking loads of OT
The problem as i see it is that Managment look at the office as a whole to make savings , taking the easiest route instead of looking at the rounds indivigually to see who gets back early, needless to say i am cutting off every day as i was back spot on time before and now have an extra 40 min summer savings before getting to my own delivery , but i am not bitter at least i am not on my own this time