MEL wrote:we are being asked in our office 2 walk oversized packets to their destinations ( 2 many packets, not enough vans and no staff). i have refused this so far on grounds of health and safety etc, but was informed today by our rep that i should be doing it. Told him 2 get the dim 2 put it in writing so as 2 take all responsibility away from me for any accidents or resulting bad backs that mite happen because of this . i was just wondering if ne 1 else has had 2 deal with this type of thing b4.
If anyone has an office in which geo route has been used and has an issue with the number of packets they are being asked to deliver, this may help. When geo route calculates a walk, it calculates attendance calls (any recorded, special, or packet that requires customer contact) at 1.7% of the total number of delivery points on that walk. i.e if you have 500 delivery points you should have no more than 9 packets/recordeds/specials and that is without oversized packets. According to geo route you should have no more than this if you are to complete in 3hr 30mins.
350 delivery points = 6 packets
400 delivery points = 7 packets
450 delivery points = 8 packets
500 delivery points = 9 packets
550 delivery points = 9 packets
600 delivery points = 10 packets
650 delivery points = 11 packets
If anyone has difficulty cutting off or claiming overtime, quote these figures. The 1.7% is a parameter in the geo route program that cannot be changed. Is there any wonder its such a bag of sh*te.
This has to be a joke!
I had 85 packets for my 675 drop walk this morning. I s**t you not...
MEL wrote:we are being asked in our office 2 walk oversized packets to their destinations ( 2 many packets, not enough vans and no staff). i have refused this so far on grounds of health and safety etc, but was informed today by our rep that i should be doing it. Told him 2 get the dim 2 put it in writing so as 2 take all responsibility away from me for any accidents or resulting bad backs that mite happen because of this . i was just wondering if ne 1 else has had 2 deal with this type of thing b4.
If anyone has an office in which geo route has been used and has an issue with the number of packets they are being asked to deliver, this may help. When geo route calculates a walk, it calculates attendance calls (any recorded, special, or packet that requires customer contact) at 1.7% of the total number of delivery points on that walk. i.e if you have 500 delivery points you should have no more than 9 packets/recordeds/specials and that is without oversized packets. According to geo route you should have no more than this if you are to complete in 3hr 30mins.
350 delivery points = 6 packets
400 delivery points = 7 packets
450 delivery points = 8 packets
500 delivery points = 9 packets
550 delivery points = 9 packets
600 delivery points = 10 packets
650 delivery points = 11 packets
If anyone has difficulty cutting off or claiming overtime, quote these figures. The 1.7% is a parameter in the geo route program that cannot be changed. Is there any wonder its such a bag of sh*te.
This has to be a joke!
I had 85 packets for my 675 drop walk this morning. I s**t you not...
If you read the instruction it says "customer contact" which would mean only those that wouldn't go through the letter box.
If you read the instruction it says "customer contact" which would mean only those that wouldn't go through the letter box.
Over the past few months I've been getting between 10 and 20 recorded/specials and usually 30+packets that require the person answering the door ie. what I can't get through the letterbox.
I'm preparing myself for the zombie invasion, rule number 1 - Cardio
If you read the instruction it says "customer contact" which would mean only those that wouldn't go through the letter box.
So how does one know how many wont go through letterboxes before you start? Surely you would only know at the end, by which time its too late. With 700+ drops is impossible to memorise the exact geometry of each letterbox and match it to the size of the packet while sorting.
If you read the instruction it says "customer contact" which would mean only those that wouldn't go through the letter box.
So how does one know how many wont go through letterboxes before you start? Surely you would only know at the end, by which time its too late. With 700+ drops is impossible to memorise the exact geometry of each letterbox and match it to the size of the packet while sorting.
If you read the instruction it says "customer contact" which would mean only those that wouldn't go through the letter box.
So how does one know how many wont go through letterboxes before you start? Surely you would only know at the end, by which time its too late. With 700+ drops is impossible to memorise the exact geometry of each letterbox and match it to the size of the packet while sorting.
plus for those with entry systems coupled with later starts you have the issue of not even getting into the stair so all packets cant go through a letterbox!
MEL wrote:we are being asked in our office 2 walk oversized packets to their destinations ( 2 many packets, not enough vans and no staff). i have refused this so far on grounds of health and safety etc, but was informed today by our rep that i should be doing it. Told him 2 get the dim 2 put it in writing so as 2 take all responsibility away from me for any accidents or resulting bad backs that mite happen because of this . i was just wondering if ne 1 else has had 2 deal with this type of thing b4.
If anyone has an office in which geo route has been used and has an issue with the number of packets they are being asked to deliver, this may help. When geo route calculates a walk, it calculates attendance calls (any recorded, special, or packet that requires customer contact) at 1.7% of the total number of delivery points on that walk. i.e if you have 500 delivery points you should have no more than 9 packets/recordeds/specials and that is without oversized packets. According to geo route you should have no more than this if you are to complete in 3hr 30mins.
350 delivery points = 6 packets
400 delivery points = 7 packets
450 delivery points = 8 packets
500 delivery points = 9 packets
550 delivery points = 9 packets
600 delivery points = 10 packets
650 delivery points = 11 packets
If anyone has difficulty cutting off or claiming overtime, quote these figures. The 1.7% is a parameter in the geo route program that cannot be changed. Is there any wonder its such a bag of sh*te.
This has to be a joke!
I had 85 packets for my 675 drop walk this morning. I s**t you not...
If you read the instruction it says "customer contact" which would mean only those that wouldn't go through the letter box.
Ha.Ha. I remember when one chap told the line manager he had no more rooms for packets.getting
down on the floor and .knees on top of pouch and squeezing more packets in!!!!!
this is a really interesting topic and would like to know the correct meaning of oversize packets on delivery, how many packets per delivery and that leighton statement was interesting too....more input on this please.....if felt like jonny 5 then typing more input
"ever get the feeling you've been cheated" John Lydon
i was just thinking we cood us alan leightons pay packet as a template for oversize packets. but then i thought stuff that i aint carrying nething that heavy
dvbuk55 wrote:Thanks for that johnnyp - there is an opinion that seems to think it has to fit every which way, but the simple truth is if it fits through it goes on the walk. There are other considerations of course, weight is, in my opinion, probably the most important.
Sorry about that, what I meant to say was that if the packet has to be forced into the templete, using the old 'it fits if I turn it this way and then that'
Personally speaking if it's a bit tight I use a plastic mallet - and I use that on the template as well
There you go, boasting again I personally use a shoe horn
Maybe it wouldn't do for me I'm a size 18 shoe
Well, you know what they say about people with big feet
Yeah! only good for playing basketball
"Today’s workplace has become heartless and soulless. Employees are seen as units of labour, automatons, functionaries, objects for achieving designated tasks, and as costs to be minimised."
Ha.Ha. I remember when one chap told the line manager he had no more rooms for packets.getting 
I personally use a shoe horn 
