Future of Royal Mail

[HTPostman]

One of your first posts for 3 and a bit months, having previously gone 4 months without answering members - when you’d offered to answer any questions and then ignored them.

13 weeks of ignoring members pleas, gaslighting them.

And then you come here and once again post as if you are a mouthpiece for RM, rather than for the CWU members.

Martin - who do you work for? Is it Daniel Kretinsky with his net worth of £8 billion? Is it ‘Desperate’ Dan with his £65m mansion in London, his villa in Prague, £18.5m townhouse in Paris, £84m yacht, 2 private jets and part ownership of a private island in the Maldives?

Or is it the beleaguered, earning just above minimum wage, been asked to make changes and adapt for a few decades now, struggling to keep up with the cost of living postie?

I’m afraid it is not good enough. I’ll look out for your next return here in 3-4 months, or when it’s CWU election time and you need to sell yourself, whichever comes sooner.

[Walter sobchak]

Did I just hear right?Using pension surplus to quicken equalisation….jesus,” I prefer not to speak”

It should be up to Royal Mail to fund equalisation and not Royal Mail employees in the form of the pension surplus .

[smok3y666]

Same story for last 5 years.

[scotchy1962]

The Pension Surplus is protected fully by Government and Trustees.

Remember the pension surplus would still there if everyone retired tomorrow and got their full pay out.

The pension trustees will decide when they believe it is safe and it is often at the point when they sell it onto an insurance company to administer.

We do not expect this is happen until 2028 at the earliest. When it does then the CWU will get a share of this to go into the employee benefit fund to use to benefit employees which include helping quicken any equalisation pathway or bring the pension age of the new scheme down from 67.

So Martin you decide to answer about the pension surplus, i think there's been plenty of other statements on your post which you are not prepared to make a reply.
Martin you have to be prepared to defend what you say and enter into debate, otherwise i would tend to believe you only believe in enforcement of what you believe and that would be tending towards dictatorship.
Grow a pair and interact with the people you represent.
Grow a pair and represent your membership with the employer.
Grow a pair and take on the employer instead of sounding like his bootlicker.

[tramssirhc]

This company is at a fork in the road, it is 9.3 billion turnover company but making virtually no profit or breaking even at best.

Companies doing this regular don’t survive in the same way going forward unless they change.

This is why the following has to happening :

USO reform has to be introduced and quality of service restored. The alternative is that we end up with the frequency reduction which is happening in other parts of Europe which will mean thousands of job losses and lead to reductions in mail centres as 3 or 4 day USO options mean that processing and transporting is no longer as time critical.

The self bogus workforce in Amazon , Evri , DHL and practically every other parcel operator must be given single status right and be classed at employed. The fact that companies are allowed not to pay a wage , national insurance, pension , holiday pay , sick pay , van costs , derv costs , uniform etc is meaning Royal Mail are either losing contracts or they are receiving less money for those contracts.


Reform of Ofcom. The USO should be supported by a levy of those companies like Amazon who will not deliver to the most costly parts of the UK.

Growth - There must be a growth strategy in place which is not just built on parcels.

Reset - The agreement states that there must be a full employee and industrial relations reset and there is a launch event next week and a lot of joint work has been done in this area.

The challenge must be to get Royal Mail back to being profitable to ensure our members share in that profit and have long term job security.

The other path is within three years when the Legal guarantees are up for review is that EP simply say we are only going to deliver the USO which accounts for 11% of all traffic by way of a skeleton workforce and all the other workload we are going to use the self bogus employment model themselves.

That is the context this agreement has to be seen against.

Nowt but fear mongering in an attempt to get a yes vote. There is not a single thread of socialism in this statement. Our forebears would be ashamed.

[Hyrrokkin]

Did I just hear right?Using pension surplus to quicken equalisation….jesus,” I prefer not to speak”

It should be up to Royal Mail to fund equalisation and not Royal Mail employees in the form of the pension surplus .

100% - to even think otherwise is madness...and shows how out of touch the CWU are with their own paying members.

[Chelseablue]

This company is at a fork in the road, it is 9.3 billion turnover company but making virtually no profit or breaking even at best.

Companies doing this regular don’t survive in the same way going forward unless they change.

This is why the following has to happening :

USO reform has to be introduced and quality of service restored. The alternative is that we end up with the frequency reduction which is happening in other parts of Europe which will mean thousands of job losses and lead to reductions in mail centres as 3 or 4 day USO options mean that processing and transporting is no longer as time critical.

The self bogus workforce in Amazon , Evri , DHL and practically every other parcel operator must be given single status right and be classed at employed. The fact that companies are allowed not to pay a wage , national insurance, pension , holiday pay , sick pay , van costs , derv costs , uniform etc is meaning Royal Mail are either losing contracts or they are receiving less money for those contracts.


Reform of Ofcom. The USO should be supported by a levy of those companies like Amazon who will not deliver to the most costly parts of the UK.

Growth - There must be a growth strategy in place which is not just built on parcels.

Reset - The agreement states that there must be a full employee and industrial relations reset and there is a launch event next week and a lot of joint work has been done in this area.

The challenge must be to get Royal Mail back to being profitable to ensure our members share in that profit and have long term job security.

The other path is within three years when the Legal guarantees are up for review is that EP simply say we are only going to deliver the USO which accounts for 11% of all traffic by way of a skeleton workforce and all the other workload we are going to use the self bogus employment model themselves.

That is the context this agreement has to be seen against.

Nowt but fear mongering in an attempt to get a yes vote. There is not a single thread of socialism in this statement. Our forebears would be ashamed.

Is the company struggling? Never seen so much parcels coming through our doors, also new builds are everywhere !

[tramssirhc]

This company is at a fork in the road, it is 9.3 billion turnover company but making virtually no profit or breaking even at best.

Companies doing this regular don’t survive in the same way going forward unless they change.

This is why the following has to happening :

USO reform has to be introduced and quality of service restored. The alternative is that we end up with the frequency reduction which is happening in other parts of Europe which will mean thousands of job losses and lead to reductions in mail centres as 3 or 4 day USO options mean that processing and transporting is no longer as time critical.

The self bogus workforce in Amazon , Evri , DHL and practically every other parcel operator must be given single status right and be classed at employed. The fact that companies are allowed not to pay a wage , national insurance, pension , holiday pay , sick pay , van costs , derv costs , uniform etc is meaning Royal Mail are either losing contracts or they are receiving less money for those contracts.


Reform of Ofcom. The USO should be supported by a levy of those companies like Amazon who will not deliver to the most costly parts of the UK.

Growth - There must be a growth strategy in place which is not just built on parcels.

Reset - The agreement states that there must be a full employee and industrial relations reset and there is a launch event next week and a lot of joint work has been done in this area.

The challenge must be to get Royal Mail back to being profitable to ensure our members share in that profit and have long term job security.

The other path is within three years when the Legal guarantees are up for review is that EP simply say we are only going to deliver the USO which accounts for 11% of all traffic by way of a skeleton workforce and all the other workload we are going to use the self bogus employment model themselves.

That is the context this agreement has to be seen against.

Nowt but fear mongering in an attempt to get a yes vote. There is not a single thread of socialism in this statement. Our forebears would be ashamed.

Is the company struggling? Never seen so much parcels coming through our doors, also new builds are everywhere !

The only socialist response is renationalisation. There will never ever be enough profit for the capitalists. Or the union movement's equivalent of Snowball.

[SpacePhoenix]

This company is at a fork in the road, it is 9.3 billion turnover company but making virtually no profit or breaking even at best.

Companies doing this regular don’t survive in the same way going forward unless they change.

This is why the following has to happening :

USO reform has to be introduced and quality of service restored. The alternative is that we end up with the frequency reduction which is happening in other parts of Europe which will mean thousands of job losses and lead to reductions in mail centres as 3 or 4 day USO options mean that processing and transporting is no longer as time critical.

The self bogus workforce in Amazon , Evri , DHL and practically every other parcel operator must be given single status right and be classed at employed. The fact that companies are allowed not to pay a wage , national insurance, pension , holiday pay , sick pay , van costs , derv costs , uniform etc is meaning Royal Mail are either losing contracts or they are receiving less money for those contracts.


Reform of Ofcom. The USO should be supported by a levy of those companies like Amazon who will not deliver to the most costly parts of the UK.

Growth - There must be a growth strategy in place which is not just built on parcels.

Reset - The agreement states that there must be a full employee and industrial relations reset and there is a launch event next week and a lot of joint work has been done in this area.

The challenge must be to get Royal Mail back to being profitable to ensure our members share in that profit and have long term job security.

The other path is within three years when the Legal guarantees are up for review is that EP simply say we are only going to deliver the USO which accounts for 11% of all traffic by way of a skeleton workforce and all the other workload we are going to use the self bogus employment model themselves.

That is the context this agreement has to be seen against.

Nowt but fear mongering in an attempt to get a yes vote. There is not a single thread of socialism in this statement. Our forebears would be ashamed.

Is the company struggling? Never seen so much parcels coming through our doors, also new builds are everywhere !

Where I live quite often developers knock a house down and build 2 or 3 on the plot. If the plot is big enough they might build a block of flats.

[Mr Rush]

There will never ever be enough profit for the capitalists.

The main natural resource of the first world now is the high living standards of its population, which is being consumed to continue propelling the line beyond the natural apex of the current mode of production. We are deep in the midst of a wealth transfer that is reversing the gains of the mid 20th century, which is leading us back to the troubled times that preceded it.

[TopperGas]

This company is at a fork in the road, it is 9.3 billion turnover company but making virtually no profit or breaking even at best.

Companies doing this regular don’t survive in the same way going forward unless they change.

This is why the following has to happening :

USO reform has to be introduced and quality of service restored. The alternative is that we end up with the frequency reduction which is happening in other parts of Europe which will mean thousands of job losses and lead to reductions in mail centres as 3 or 4 day USO options mean that processing and transporting is no longer as time critical.

The self bogus workforce in Amazon , Evri , DHL and practically every other parcel operator must be given single status right and be classed at employed. The fact that companies are allowed not to pay a wage , national insurance, pension , holiday pay , sick pay , van costs , derv costs , uniform etc is meaning Royal Mail are either losing contracts or they are receiving less money for those contracts.


Reform of Ofcom. The USO should be supported by a levy of those companies like Amazon who will not deliver to the most costly parts of the UK.

Growth - There must be a growth strategy in place which is not just built on parcels.

Reset - The agreement states that there must be a full employee and industrial relations reset and there is a launch event next week and a lot of joint work has been done in this area.

The challenge must be to get Royal Mail back to being profitable to ensure our members share in that profit and have long term job security.

The other path is within three years when the Legal guarantees are up for review is that EP simply say we are only going to deliver the USO which accounts for 11% of all traffic by way of a skeleton workforce and all the other workload we are going to use the self bogus employment model themselves.

That is the context this agreement has to be seen against.

Nowt but fear mongering in an attempt to get a yes vote. There is not a single thread of socialism in this statement. Our forebears would be ashamed.

Is the company struggling? Never seen so much parcels coming through our doors, also new builds are everywhere !

The company is struggling to make any profits from letters but they must be making a decent profit from parcels giving that they seem to be increasing year on year by 10% or even 20% but staff numbers seem to be reducing each year?

If they are struggling why are they still paying managers massive bonuses?

[hero22]

Just look at Robin for example, every other comment by a USO change champion. What the hell sort of role is that ? Paid a fortune no doubt to spout shite

[norris9]

Us mere employees can't do anything to improve the companies profits.... it's up to the CWU and Royal Mail management to sort this mess out and get on with it at speed....

To be honest - I won't be complaining if in 3 years time Kretinsky moves to an owner-driver setup if it means redundancy payouts for staff who don't want to take on such a role.

What will be - will be. It's out of posties control what happens to this company.

[richietns]

There will never ever be enough profit for the capitalists.

The main natural resource of the first world now is the high living standards of its population, which is being consumed to continue propelling the line beyond the natural apex of the current mode of production. We are deep in the midst of a wealth transfer that is reversing the gains of the mid 20th century, which is leading us back to the troubled times that preceded it.

Which is nuts because there is so much money out there,living standards are better than a century ago but we can clearly see they are slowly getting taken away

[ArthurPewty]

The Pension Surplus is protected fully by Government and Trustees.

Remember the pension surplus would still there if everyone retired tomorrow and got their full pay out.

The pension trustees will decide when they believe it is safe and it is often at the point when they sell it onto an insurance company to administer.

We do not expect this is happen until 2028 at the earliest. When it does then the CWU will get a share of this to go into the employee benefit fund to use to benefit employees which include helping quicken any equalisation pathway or bring the pension age of the new scheme down from 67.

I'm not in the pension, never have been, and even I see that ALL surplus must ONLY be used to benefit those who've paid in!