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Universally challenged
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Pfrizzy10
- Posts: 96
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Re: Universally challenged
Why do people care if it works or not?
We still get paid
We still get paid
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Gary55
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- Location: london
Re: Universally challenged
They will blame people for nor achieving a supposedly fair work load probably discipline or sack a few. End result climate of fear people will panic rush round and come in early and go without a meal relief as usual. Then they will target the people doing the job properly as obviously they'll be behind the panicking fuckwits . All with the blessings of the union. But at least people will learn to finish or have a world of s**t reigned upon them
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Pfrizzy10
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Re: Universally challenged
No grounds to sack you if you are doing what you should be doing. Also, the halfwits are coming in early and rushing around already. They have been doing it for years. They won’t stopGary55 wrote: ↑02 May 2026, 14:47They will blame people for nor achieving a supposedly fair work load probably discipline or sack a few. End result climate of fear people will panic rush round and come in early and go without a meal relief as usual. Then they will target the people doing the job properly as obviously they'll be behind the panicking fuckwits . All with the blessings of the union. But at least people will learn to finish or have a world of s**t reigned upon them
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Wullie10
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 674
- Joined: 30 Jul 2017, 12:07
- Gender: Male
- Location: Retired
Re: Universally challenged
There has and still is institutional bullying in RM . Some is well documented. Some of it quite horrendous. Its all very well sitting behind a keyboard being a strong man , but how many are willing to stand up and speak out against it ? Ill tell you the answer. Very very few. Not everyone is strong and willing to face a bully especially when they have zero support from their colleagues. They aren't all halfwits. The halfwits are the cowards who stand and watch it happen , then turn away and look after themselves.
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dazzler123
- Posts: 468
- Joined: 11 Oct 2021, 17:36
- Gender: Male
Re: Universally challenged
There will be nobody left to do the job if they sack people, its already a revolving door of new starters as of nowGary55 wrote: ↑02 May 2026, 14:47They will blame people for nor achieving a supposedly fair work load probably discipline or sack a few. End result climate of fear people will panic rush round and come in early and go without a meal relief as usual. Then they will target the people doing the job properly as obviously they'll be behind the panicking fuckwits . All with the blessings of the union. But at least people will learn to finish or have a world of s**t reigned upon them
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Thommo44
- Posts: 223
- Joined: 10 Nov 2018, 13:00
- Gender: Male
Re: Universally challenged
But at least one frame will still be full of mail, the one that was on‘light’ on Friday? And chances of the heavy being cleared are not looking great
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roomintheback
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- Joined: 24 Jan 2025, 11:22
- Gender: Male
Re: Universally challenged
Hi everyone, what does the term "call rate" mean? Thanking you in advance.
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BenacreNick
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- Joined: 18 Jul 2022, 13:27
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Re: Universally challenged
roomintheback wrote: ↑02 May 2026, 19:51Hi everyone, what does the term "call rate" mean? Thanking you in advance.
Prepping your letters in the frame. Count how many letters (delivery points) cover the first 100 addresses. If it's 33 then your call rate is 33% and you will visit 1 in 3 houses.
I hope this makes sense.
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Nickvilla20
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- Gender: Male
Re: Universally challenged
The percentage of actual addresses you go to.roomintheback wrote: ↑02 May 2026, 19:51Hi everyone, what does the term "call rate" mean? Thanking you in advance.
If you deliver to 150 addresses out of 600 that’s a 25% call rate.
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DGH
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- Location: Neither here nor there
Re: Universally challenged
I think the idea is that that mail won't have been prepped. It will lie around on the fitting waiting for Monday before it's prepped. Only the first class will be prepped on the 'light' routes on the day they are scheduled to be 'light'. So if Friday was light, that mail won't be prepped. So on Monday that walk will have Friday, Saturday and Monday non-1st class as well as Monday's 1st class.
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SpacePhoenix
- MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
- Posts: 11870
- Joined: 12 Nov 2008, 17:03
- Gender: Male
Re: Universally challenged
From what we've been told, on a Thursday night the DTS will be releasing any 2C that has hit the time limit on the Thursday night and any mail that would have hit the time limit on the Friday night. You might well have two trays mech per walk come through for Friday delivery, with the very busy walks maybe having 3 trays.DGH wrote: ↑02 May 2026, 20:22I think the idea is that that mail won't have been prepped. It will lie around on the fitting waiting for Monday before it's prepped. Only the first class will be prepped on the 'light' routes on the day they are scheduled to be 'light'. So if Friday was light, that mail won't be prepped. So on Monday that walk will have Friday, Saturday and Monday non-1st class as well as Monday's 1st class.
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tramssirhc
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Re: Universally challenged
But but Martin says it's 1c only.....SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑02 May 2026, 20:42From what we've been told, on a Thursday night the DTS will be releasing any 2C that has hit the time limit on the Thursday night and any mail that would have hit the time limit on the Friday night. You might well have two trays mech per walk come through for Friday delivery, with the very busy walks maybe having 3 trays.DGH wrote: ↑02 May 2026, 20:22I think the idea is that that mail won't have been prepped. It will lie around on the fitting waiting for Monday before it's prepped. Only the first class will be prepped on the 'light' routes on the day they are scheduled to be 'light'. So if Friday was light, that mail won't be prepped. So on Monday that walk will have Friday, Saturday and Monday non-1st class as well as Monday's 1st class.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
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postslippete
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Re: Universally challenged
From the original post
Why would staff vote yes and vote early on something that they don't fully understand and which hasn't been properly trialled and tested??
The USO trials wasn't exactly a roaring success, so what makes the DM26 any different? Putting in more walks isn't a silver bullet if they aren't fully staffed. You can't just rename things "heavy/light" and hope that it works. Any model which only has 3 people trying to cover 4 walks sounds like daily lapsing on steroids.
It's a very odd and chaotic way of working that RM are forcing us to do. Surely, if we are already walking the same loops and calling at the same addresses to deliver Tracked items then splitting the mail onto another day is merely duplicating the work and misallocating the workload rather than reducing it?
RM are trying to operate a sort of hybrid mess
Why would staff vote yes and vote early on something that they don't fully understand and which hasn't been properly trialled and tested??
The USO trials wasn't exactly a roaring success, so what makes the DM26 any different? Putting in more walks isn't a silver bullet if they aren't fully staffed. You can't just rename things "heavy/light" and hope that it works. Any model which only has 3 people trying to cover 4 walks sounds like daily lapsing on steroids.
It's a very odd and chaotic way of working that RM are forcing us to do. Surely, if we are already walking the same loops and calling at the same addresses to deliver Tracked items then splitting the mail onto another day is merely duplicating the work and misallocating the workload rather than reducing it?
RM are trying to operate a sort of hybrid mess
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
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SMS1969
- Posts: 963
- Joined: 28 Jun 2021, 11:36
- Gender: Male
Re: Universally challenged
Trying to paint over the fact that DK wants as many off the payroll as possible is all this is. Nobody is fooled. An absolutely complicated mess.
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SpacePhoenix
- MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
- Posts: 11870
- Joined: 12 Nov 2008, 17:03
- Gender: Male
Re: Universally challenged
He doesn't have any understanding of how the DTS works, once an item has hit the time limit it WILL get released. If there's a 2C item for a DP that is getting a 2C item released it WILL get released. If it's not released a day early on the Thursday for Friday delivery then it'll have to be released on the Friday for Saturday delivery otherwise it'll fail its spec.tramssirhc wrote: ↑02 May 2026, 22:00But but Martin says it's 1c only.....SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑02 May 2026, 20:42From what we've been told, on a Thursday night the DTS will be releasing any 2C that has hit the time limit on the Thursday night and any mail that would have hit the time limit on the Friday night. You might well have two trays mech per walk come through for Friday delivery, with the very busy walks maybe having 3 trays.DGH wrote: ↑02 May 2026, 20:22I think the idea is that that mail won't have been prepped. It will lie around on the fitting waiting for Monday before it's prepped. Only the first class will be prepped on the 'light' routes on the day they are scheduled to be 'light'. So if Friday was light, that mail won't be prepped. So on Monday that walk will have Friday, Saturday and Monday non-1st class as well as Monday's 1st class.