Relations between old guard and newbies

[HarrySutton111]

I'd be happy if the dpr lad stopped putting parcels in bushes and wrote cards out tbh

[menditsa]

I'd be happy if the dpr lad stopped putting parcels in bushes and wrote cards out tbh

Our DPR lot just got a dressing down for doorstepping signed for's

[HarrySutton111]

I'd be happy if the dpr lad stopped putting parcels in bushes and wrote cards out tbh

Our DPR lot just got a dressing down for doorstepping signed for's

[GRS]

The most obvious rage bait thread I’ve seen on here.

Our office is large and we have a fair few new starters and everyone gets on.

You need to grow up if you don’t.

Everyone on the old contracts thinks we should all get the same pay and we were against these new contracts whilst being out on strike for 18 days.

It’s really embarrassing if you’re falling for the divide and conquer strategy Royal Mail have had for years.

It was Royal Mail that introduced the new contracts , not “legacy” employees or the union for that matter.

I’ll help new and old employees and talk to them as I always have whilst saying that new contracts should be paid the same as me.

You need to experience a week this side of the fence if you really believe we are all one united, cohesive, happy team.

Not being funny here Smooth but I’ve noticed that a lot of posts you make always contain some comment about “The Old Guard”! Are you sure that it’s not you who has a problem with long serving staff? Maybe it’s some sort of subconscious jealousy? You need to let it go and just let people be who they are, there’s too much other s**t going on in the world to worry whether someone in the workplace has been there longer than you have. If you can it up with the s**t that RM throws at you for a number of years you’ll also become a long serving member of staff. Remember before you carry on dissing these people that yes some of them may be miserable gits but they deserve respect for their long and dedicated service.

[Barnacle]

I just tell them to not sign up to the union as it's a waste of money.

Majority of new contract workers are members.

[Pidleypoo]

The most obvious rage bait thread I’ve seen on here.

Our office is large and we have a fair few new starters and everyone gets on.

You need to grow up if you don’t.

Everyone on the old contracts thinks we should all get the same pay and we were against these new contracts whilst being out on strike for 18 days.

It’s really embarrassing if you’re falling for the divide and conquer strategy Royal Mail have had for years.

It was Royal Mail that introduced the new contracts , not “legacy” employees or the union for that matter.

I’ll help new and old employees and talk to them as I always have whilst saying that new contracts should be paid the same as me.

You need to experience a week this side of the fence if you really believe we are all one united, cohesive, happy team.

Where exactly did I say that ?

[Judgee]

Only problems that ever seem to come up between old and new are usually to do with seniority? Some new starters that think that they should get their own walk after being with the company for five minutes and that it's "so unfair" they have to do all the crap stuff for a few years! Even though the rest of us all had to take a turn at that when we all started!

[Mr Rush]

Some new starters that think that they should get their own walk after being with the company for five minutes

Given the number of vacated duties, they often do. I think the difference is that they're not signed to the duty. I know that means absolutely nothing these days, but a senior duty holder will likely still refuse to budge or be awkward enough that management find it easier to kick reserves around instead.

And so a new starter is punted from one rammed frame to another, given every Tuesday off unless it's a Bank Holiday then it's forcibly banked into annual leave you can never book, until they make it to their first payslip and realise their efforts would be better rewarded anywhere else. Then someone else walks in the door and the cycle repeats.

I can certainly say that being a reserve now (and I have been recently) is far worse than it was when I started. None of the above crap happened way back, so new starts absolutely have my sympathy there.

[Smoothbackground]

I just tell them to not sign up to the union as it's a waste of money.

Majority of new contract workers are members.

Are they really? Source? That certainly doesn’t correlate with my anecdotal experience,

[Smoothbackground]

The most obvious rage bait thread I’ve seen on here.

Our office is large and we have a fair few new starters and everyone gets on.

You need to grow up if you don’t.

Everyone on the old contracts thinks we should all get the same pay and we were against these new contracts whilst being out on strike for 18 days.

It’s really embarrassing if you’re falling for the divide and conquer strategy Royal Mail have had for years.

It was Royal Mail that introduced the new contracts , not “legacy” employees or the union for that matter.

I’ll help new and old employees and talk to them as I always have whilst saying that new contracts should be paid the same as me.

You need to experience a week this side of the fence if you really believe we are all one united, cohesive, happy team.

Where exactly did I say that ?

Apologies, Pidley, I have gone awry with the quote function. You didn’t say that! I was responding to A2B’s reply to me further up the threqd and quoted you by mistake

[Smoothbackground]

The most obvious rage bait thread I’ve seen on here.

Our office is large and we have a fair few new starters and everyone gets on.

You need to grow up if you don’t.

Everyone on the old contracts thinks we should all get the same pay and we were against these new contracts whilst being out on strike for 18 days.

It’s really embarrassing if you’re falling for the divide and conquer strategy Royal Mail have had for years.

It was Royal Mail that introduced the new contracts , not “legacy” employees or the union for that matter.

I’ll help new and old employees and talk to them as I always have whilst saying that new contracts should be paid the same as me.

You need to experience a week this side of the fence if you really believe we are all one united, cohesive, happy team.

Not being funny here Smooth but I’ve noticed that a lot of posts you make always contain some comment about “The Old Guard”! Are you sure that it’s not you who has a problem with long serving staff? Maybe it’s some sort of subconscious jealousy? You need to let it go and just let people be who they are, there’s too much other s**t going on in the world to worry whether someone in the workplace has been there longer than you have. If you can it up with the s**t that RM throws at you for a number of years you’ll also become a long serving member of staff. Remember before you carry on dissing these people that yes some of them may be miserable gits but they deserve respect for their long and dedicated service.

Yeah, it must just be me!

[Barnacle]

I just tell them to not sign up to the union as it's a waste of money.

Majority of new contract workers are members.

Are they really? Source? That certainly doesn’t correlate with my anecdotal experience,

Anecdotal, only reflects your local experience. As someone else on this thread stated, their office has a high proportion of new contract workers. This gives the impression that ‘they are taking over’ but when you look at the workforce as a whole, the numbers tell a different story. Same with union membership among certain groups.

[Pidleypoo]

The most obvious rage bait thread I’ve seen on here.

Our office is large and we have a fair few new starters and everyone gets on.

You need to grow up if you don’t.

Everyone on the old contracts thinks we should all get the same pay and we were against these new contracts whilst being out on strike for 18 days.

It’s really embarrassing if you’re falling for the divide and conquer strategy Royal Mail have had for years.

It was Royal Mail that introduced the new contracts , not “legacy” employees or the union for that matter.

I’ll help new and old employees and talk to them as I always have whilst saying that new contracts should be paid the same as me.

You need to experience a week this side of the fence if you really believe we are all one united, cohesive, happy team.

Where exactly did I say that ?

Apologies, Pidley, I have gone awry with the quote function. You didn’t say that! I was responding to A2B’s reply to me further up the threqd and quoted you by mistake

Fair enough.

[Smoothbackground]

I just tell them to not sign up to the union as it's a waste of money.

Majority of new contract workers are members.

Are they really? Source? That certainly doesn’t correlate with my anecdotal experience,

Anecdotal, only reflects your local experience. As someone else on this thread stated, their office has a high proportion of new contract workers. This gives the impression that ‘they are taking over’ but when you look at the workforce as a whole, the numbers tell a different story. Same with union membership among certain groups.

Mine is indeed anecdotal. But I asked you to cite the source for the figures which you have asserted as though fact — which you still haven’t done, which leaves those figures as bald assertions and uncorroborated.

[Barnacle]

I just tell them to not sign up to the union as it's a waste of money.

Majority of new contract workers are members.

Are they really? Source? That certainly doesn’t correlate with my anecdotal experience,

Anecdotal, only reflects your local experience. As someone else on this thread stated, their office has a high proportion of new contract workers. This gives the impression that ‘they are taking over’ but when you look at the workforce as a whole, the numbers tell a different story. Same with union membership among certain groups.

Mine is indeed anecdotal. But I asked you to cite the source for the figures which you have asserted as though fact — which you still haven’t done, which leaves those figures as bald assertions and uncorroborated.

I’ve cited as fact because I was citing facts. Just because you don’t know it, doesn’t make it untrue.