Will the attendance patterns get enforced by management?

[hewittinspain]

Those 2 in 5 sound garbage , why are people choosing that ?

What's the better option you think? 4 day weeks will be finishing about 5pm and out walking for 8hrs. 2 in 6 is clearly not as good as 2 in 5.
What would you pick?

[kazardaimenu]

If there are more singletons coming out of these changes then you’d think there would be able to be a bit more flexibility around working hours.

[Perseus]

So the jewel in the crown, best part about this new way of working, more Saturdays off and better shift patterns, seems to have hit the buffers a few offices into the trials?

Quelle surprise!

[Pidleypoo]

Those 2 in 5 sound garbage , why are people choosing that ?

What's the better option you think? 4 day weeks will be finishing about 5pm and out walking for 8hrs. 2 in 6 is clearly not as good as 2 in 5.
What would you pick?

9 day fortnight. At least every 4 weeks you get a Friday -Monday off. The days are only as long as our longest days now.

Just don’t think that a Friday and Saturday off one week for the next week to be Saturday Monday is very good.

Also you never have a Wednesday off.

Think if we’re getting all of this change then we could get something better for ourselves.

[Pidleypoo]

Those 2 in 5 sound garbage , why are people choosing that ?

They aren't, they're being imposed to make longer days so that you have longer delivery time.

This is something I’ve said in other threads.

Our reps says we’ll get a choice between 3. 2/6 2/5 or 9 day fortnight..

We’ll see.

[hewittinspain]

Those 2 in 5 sound garbage , why are people choosing that ?

What's the better option you think? 4 day weeks will be finishing about 5pm and out walking for 8hrs. 2 in 6 is clearly not as good as 2 in 5.
What would you pick?

9 day fortnight. At least every 4 weeks you get a Friday -Monday off. The days are only as long as our longest days now.

Just don’t think that a Friday and Saturday off one week for the next week to be Saturday Monday is very good.

Also you never have a Wednesday off.

Think if we’re getting all of this change then we could get something better for ourselves.

The problem in a lot of offices and mine being one is that the rep needs to explain each pattern choice clearly to everyone including all start and finish times so I'm hoping this is set out clearly in order for us to make our choice. There are lots of staff with children at school, lots of staff that doesn't want to walk the streets longer than they already are. If the finish times on the 9 day fortnight are the same then I'd personally go for that.
I hope when the rep speaks to us then all start and finish times and all days off are clear for everyone.

[qwerty2]

Those 2 in 5 sound garbage , why are people choosing that ?

What's the better option you think? 4 day weeks will be finishing about 5pm and out walking for 8hrs. 2 in 6 is clearly not as good as 2 in 5.
What would you pick?

9 day fortnight. At least every 4 weeks you get a Friday -Monday off. The days are only as long as our longest days now.

Just don’t think that a Friday and Saturday off one week for the next week to be Saturday Monday is very good.

Also you never have a Wednesday off.

Think if we’re getting all of this change then we could get something better for ourselves.

The problem in a lot of offices and mine being one is that the rep needs to explain each pattern choice clearly to everyone including all start and finish times so I'm hoping this is set out clearly in order for us to make our choice. There are lots of staff with children at school, lots of staff that doesn't want to walk the streets longer than they already are. If the finish times on the 9 day fortnight are the same then I'd personally go for that.
I hope when the rep speaks to us then all start and finish times and all days off are clear for everyone.

The reps haven't got a clue what's going on

[Pidleypoo]

Those 2 in 5 sound garbage , why are people choosing that ?

What's the better option you think? 4 day weeks will be finishing about 5pm and out walking for 8hrs. 2 in 6 is clearly not as good as 2 in 5.
What would you pick?

9 day fortnight. At least every 4 weeks you get a Friday -Monday off. The days are only as long as our longest days now.

Just don’t think that a Friday and Saturday off one week for the next week to be Saturday Monday is very good.

Also you never have a Wednesday off.

Think if we’re getting all of this change then we could get something better for ourselves.

The problem in a lot of offices and mine being one is that the rep needs to explain each pattern choice clearly to everyone including all start and finish times so I'm hoping this is set out clearly in order for us to make our choice. There are lots of staff with children at school, lots of staff that doesn't want to walk the streets longer than they already are. If the finish times on the 9 day fortnight are the same then I'd personally go for that.
I hope when the rep speaks to us then all start and finish times and all days off are clear for everyone.

From what I understand about some of it is that there’s an opportunity for us to start earlier because less Lorry’s will be needed each day.

That’s a bit of speculation because let’s be honest, who tf knows what’s going to happen.

[claretandblue]

Those 2 in 5 sound garbage , why are people choosing that ?

What's the better option you think? 4 day weeks will be finishing about 5pm and out walking for 8hrs. 2 in 6 is clearly not as good as 2 in 5.
What would you pick?

9 day fortnight. At least every 4 weeks you get a Friday -Monday off. The days are only as long as our longest days now.

Just don’t think that a Friday and Saturday off one week for the next week to be Saturday Monday is very good.

Also you never have a Wednesday off.

Think if we’re getting all of this change then we could get something better for ourselves.

The problem in a lot of offices and mine being one is that the rep needs to explain each pattern choice clearly to everyone including all start and finish times so I'm hoping this is set out clearly in order for us to make our choice. There are lots of staff with children at school, lots of staff that doesn't want to walk the streets longer than they already are. If the finish times on the 9 day fortnight are the same then I'd personally go for that.
I hope when the rep speaks to us then all start and finish times and all days off are clear for everyone.

From what I understand about some of it is that there’s an opportunity for us to start earlier because less Lorry’s will be needed each day.

That’s a bit of speculation because let’s be honest, who tf knows what’s going to happen.

We were told that any extra time would be going on the finish time, not the start time.

[Pidleypoo]

Those 2 in 5 sound garbage , why are people choosing that ?

What's the better option you think? 4 day weeks will be finishing about 5pm and out walking for 8hrs. 2 in 6 is clearly not as good as 2 in 5.
What would you pick?

9 day fortnight. At least every 4 weeks you get a Friday -Monday off. The days are only as long as our longest days now.

Just don’t think that a Friday and Saturday off one week for the next week to be Saturday Monday is very good.

Also you never have a Wednesday off.

Think if we’re getting all of this change then we could get something better for ourselves.

The problem in a lot of offices and mine being one is that the rep needs to explain each pattern choice clearly to everyone including all start and finish times so I'm hoping this is set out clearly in order for us to make our choice. There are lots of staff with children at school, lots of staff that doesn't want to walk the streets longer than they already are. If the finish times on the 9 day fortnight are the same then I'd personally go for that.
I hope when the rep speaks to us then all start and finish times and all days off are clear for everyone.

From what I understand about some of it is that there’s an opportunity for us to start earlier because less Lorry’s will be needed each day.

That’s a bit of speculation because let’s be honest, who tf knows what’s going to happen.

We were told that any extra time would be going on the finish time, not the start time.

We weren’t.

Less lorry’s coming to the d.o meaning no waiting for the later one so an opportunity to start earlier.

[SpacePhoenix]

If there's going to be less lorries going to DOs I think it'll be the earlier runs that get axed, as that would make RM the most savings, less shift allowances to pay out

[SkiSunday]

If there's going to be less lorries going to DOs I think it'll be the earlier runs that get axed, as that would make RM the most savings, less shift allowances to pay out

What start and finish times do the shift allowances kick in? I assume it must be down to a specific minute of the day/night.

[Pidleypoo]

If there's going to be less lorries going to DOs I think it'll be the earlier runs that get axed, as that would make RM the most savings, less shift allowances to pay out

No it won’t.

But if that was the case then it would also mean mail centres would have to start later.

[twoloops]

best part about this new way of working, more Saturdays off

And management know most of the donkeys will want to work their day off

[SpacePhoenix]

If there's going to be less lorries going to DOs I think it'll be the earlier runs that get axed, as that would make RM the most savings, less shift allowances to pay out

What start and finish times do the shift allowances kick in? I assume it must be down to a specific minute of the day/night.

It's probably in the downloads section somewhere.

If there's going to be less lorries going to DOs I think it'll be the earlier runs that get axed, as that would make RM the most savings, less shift allowances to pay out

No it won’t.

But if that was the case then it would also mean mail centres would have to start later.

No need for MCs to start later. More of the 2C would be moved to nights, with less agency on lates. They axed our later 2C run a while back, so leaving it all for earlies to do is not an option.