The only way they can make enough profit to keep the financial press and shareholders happy, if we ever start working properly again with more staff and clearing offices of everything we'll be making a loss. This is not a viable business now when you are competing against bogus self employed workforces in their own cars/vans with no pension scheme, no sick pay, no holidays, few 'rights'steve1873 wrote: ↑20 Nov 2021, 08:01Crazy ain't it? The amount of lost time pulling out mail that there is no hope of getting delivered, only to bring it back and have to prep it again the next day.
Is that so they can report a clear office on their conference call?
The amount of fraud, and I don't use that word lightly, that goes on in this business is off the charts. Right from the top with the CEO reporting successful deployment of revisions.
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Offices 'officially' in trouble?
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redneck
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redneck
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Totally agree. and I get so tired of the arguments linked to this process with the lino, it's very boring on a daily basis.Dorset Plodder wrote: ↑20 Nov 2021, 16:54I agree with the point you're trying to make CP. It would be much more "Efficient" to simply leave any mail you're not going to take in the frame, throw of the next days mail and take the bit you left behind (leaving another street if necesary IN THE FRAME). Then as you say there's no need to throw it off back into the frame the next day, wasting yet more time.citypostie wrote: ↑20 Nov 2021, 15:50Say what you want but in delivery offices the mail taken out and brought back is put back in for the next day and the new mail gets left if need be. That's why mail gets stood down if it arrives late or is taking too long to sort on ips, leave it on the York's and push it in the corner is what they say![]()
The trouble is every DOM craps themselves in case they get a surprise audit when everyones gone out and they get a bollocking for having mail left in the frame. Personally I can't remember ever having an audit. As previously mentioned simply telling a Postie to "Just Take it for a Ride" is blatant Fraud and simply hides the problem instead of solving it.![]()
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citypostie
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Re: 18 offices 'officially' in trouble?
We had that this week, a postie tool a full frame out after saying he wouldn't deliver it....manager said don't worry come in early in morning on overtime to put it back in the frame! It's a joke the way the company is run nowDorset Plodder wrote: ↑20 Nov 2021, 16:54I agree with the point you're trying to make CP. It would be much more "Efficient" to simply leave any mail you're not going to take in the frame, throw of the next days mail and take the bit you left behind (leaving another street if necesary IN THE FRAME). Then as you say there's no need to throw it off back into the frame the next day, wasting yet more time.citypostie wrote: ↑20 Nov 2021, 15:50Say what you want but in delivery offices the mail taken out and brought back is put back in for the next day and the new mail gets left if need be. That's why mail gets stood down if it arrives late or is taking too long to sort on ips, leave it on the York's and push it in the corner is what they say![]()
The trouble is every DOM craps themselves in case they get a surprise audit when everyones gone out and they get a bollocking for having mail left in the frame. Personally I can't remember ever having an audit. As previously mentioned simply telling a Postie to "Just Take it for a Ride" is blatant Fraud and simply hides the problem instead of solving it.![]()
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Numberone63
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Re: 18 offices 'officially' in trouble?
Yeah so don’t come in early on overtime. It’s not our problem. We are just the foot soldiers on the front line. It’s the managers problem.
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This is what Simon sees...
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I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Re: 18 offices 'officially' in trouble?
saul goodman (better call saul netflix) 
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Dorset Plodder
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Great series but am I missing something No1?
You've got to love a powerpoint presentation...... when all the crap dissappears and it makes it look as if everything is working. You poor deluded soul Simon.
Like all Wage Slaves, he had two crosses to bear: The people he worked for and the people he worked with! (Stephen Vizinczey.)
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Re: 18 offices 'officially' in trouble?
Why isn't our office on that list? We are failing deliveries every single day???
What we need is an AUDIT
Is this a thing of the past? because Royal Mail really don't seem to be bothering with any of that now.
The company makes the rules and bends them all to suit their own personal agenda.
They are still blaming staff sickness it all on Covid19, when in fact it is probably because they are not putting additional staffing in to cover duties like they used to.
What we need is an AUDIT
Is this a thing of the past? because Royal Mail really don't seem to be bothering with any of that now.
The company makes the rules and bends them all to suit their own personal agenda.
They are still blaming staff sickness it all on Covid19, when in fact it is probably because they are not putting additional staffing in to cover duties like they used to.
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
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Numberone63
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Re: 18 offices 'officially' in trouble?
He’s saying. ‘It’s all good man’. The chart is showing all is good. Saul Goodman. It’s all good. S’all good. S’all Good Man. Saul Goodman.Dorset Plodder wrote: ↑21 Nov 2021, 19:44Great series but am I missing something No1?![]()
You've got to love a powerpoint presentation...... when all the crap dissappears and it makes it look as if everything is working. You poor deluded soul Simon.![]()
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I don't think that slide even shows any hard data (the Y axis is unlabelled). It looks like a generic visualisation of the Pareto distribution. That's 'Classified RMG - Internal' information!Dorset Plodder wrote: ↑21 Nov 2021, 19:44You've got to love a powerpoint presentation...... when all the crap dissappears and it makes it look as if everything is working. You poor deluded soul Simon.![]()
The machine stops.
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Today's Guardian letters section shows what we all knew:
Don't announce your record shareholder profits the same day you make the news for totally failing to deliver mail
Don't announce your record shareholder profits the same day you make the news for totally failing to deliver mail
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Happened to me on Saturday told the lino none of one delivery was getting done told me to take it out anyway then bought it all back. It may as well have stayed in the frame. They seem to think I should have got done as the usually guy makes time everyday.Dorset Plodder wrote: ↑20 Nov 2021, 16:54I agree with the point you're trying to make CP. It would be much more "Efficient" to simply leave any mail you're not going to take in the frame, throw of the next days mail and take the bit you left behind (leaving another street if necesary IN THE FRAME). Then as you say there's no need to throw it off back into the frame the next day, wasting yet more time.citypostie wrote: ↑20 Nov 2021, 15:50Say what you want but in delivery offices the mail taken out and brought back is put back in for the next day and the new mail gets left if need be. That's why mail gets stood down if it arrives late or is taking too long to sort on ips, leave it on the York's and push it in the corner is what they say![]()
The trouble is every DOM craps themselves in case they get a surprise audit when everyones gone out and they get a bollocking for having mail left in the frame. Personally I can't remember ever having an audit. As previously mentioned simply telling a Postie to "Just Take it for a Ride" is blatant Fraud and simply hides the problem instead of solving it.![]()
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SpacePhoenix
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Re: 18 offices 'officially' in trouble?
Wonder if all DOMs have been told that RM are going to start doing audits at random offices. If they were then the DO getting the visit for an audit should have zero warningNickvilla20 wrote: ↑22 Nov 2021, 14:30Happened to me on Saturday told the lino none of one delivery was getting done told me to take it out anyway then bought it all back. It may as well have stayed in the frame. They seem to think I should have got done as the usually guy makes time everyday.Dorset Plodder wrote: ↑20 Nov 2021, 16:54I agree with the point you're trying to make CP. It would be much more "Efficient" to simply leave any mail you're not going to take in the frame, throw of the next days mail and take the bit you left behind (leaving another street if necesary IN THE FRAME). Then as you say there's no need to throw it off back into the frame the next day, wasting yet more time.citypostie wrote: ↑20 Nov 2021, 15:50Say what you want but in delivery offices the mail taken out and brought back is put back in for the next day and the new mail gets left if need be. That's why mail gets stood down if it arrives late or is taking too long to sort on ips, leave it on the York's and push it in the corner is what they say![]()
The trouble is every DOM craps themselves in case they get a surprise audit when everyones gone out and they get a bollocking for having mail left in the frame. Personally I can't remember ever having an audit. As previously mentioned simply telling a Postie to "Just Take it for a Ride" is blatant Fraud and simply hides the problem instead of solving it.![]()
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Nickvilla20
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I’m not sure I’ve only been in this office for 2 weeks as I transferred. My previous office would fail 20 plus deliveries on a Saturday. This office is still lasping and the lasping is whole loops not just a few houses. lots are coming in early working for free through so maybe that has an affect on managers expectations. I personally just want to work my time.SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑22 Nov 2021, 14:40Wonder if all DOMs have been told that RM are going to start doing audits at random offices. If they were then the DO getting the visit for an audit should have zero warningNickvilla20 wrote: ↑22 Nov 2021, 14:30Happened to me on Saturday told the lino none of one delivery was getting done told me to take it out anyway then bought it all back. It may as well have stayed in the frame. They seem to think I should have got done as the usually guy makes time everyday.Dorset Plodder wrote: ↑20 Nov 2021, 16:54I agree with the point you're trying to make CP. It would be much more "Efficient" to simply leave any mail you're not going to take in the frame, throw of the next days mail and take the bit you left behind (leaving another street if necesary IN THE FRAME). Then as you say there's no need to throw it off back into the frame the next day, wasting yet more time.citypostie wrote: ↑20 Nov 2021, 15:50Say what you want but in delivery offices the mail taken out and brought back is put back in for the next day and the new mail gets left if need be. That's why mail gets stood down if it arrives late or is taking too long to sort on ips, leave it on the York's and push it in the corner is what they say![]()
The trouble is every DOM craps themselves in case they get a surprise audit when everyones gone out and they get a bollocking for having mail left in the frame. Personally I can't remember ever having an audit. As previously mentioned simply telling a Postie to "Just Take it for a Ride" is blatant Fraud and simply hides the problem instead of solving it.![]()
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SpacePhoenix
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Re: 18 offices 'officially' in trouble?
How many of them would start complaining about DPs being added to their walks. If the DOMs and higher up are getting the false impression that the walks are doable then they're going to believe that there's scope for extra lapsingNickvilla20 wrote: ↑22 Nov 2021, 15:35lots are coming in early working for free through so maybe that has an affect on managers expectations.