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Royal Mail's proposals in the current pay, pensions and change strategy negotiations

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bustedflush wrote:jeez! I am glad I'm out of it! The first steps on the race to the bottom are clearly laid out in those images!

Why does a half-Billion operating profit company seek to shaft its employees?

PENSIONS - must fight tooth and nail to preserve existing benefits, take no bribes to reduce them even if it means striking and losing pay. You'll save a huge amount more in the long run.

SICK PAY - Another huge no-no. If you feel ill and are compelled to come to work and spread it about? FFS! Suffer a half-week pay loss if you are ill? BIG MIDDLE FINGER!

REDUCED REDUNDANCY RIGHTS - Sounds like they know something you don't, trimming the fat before the axe falls. All those years' service, only to be shafted at the end? NO!

STARTER PAY - Already have an appalling record of screwing starters both with stress, bad training and lower pay rates plus inadequate contract hours compared to what they actually work, which means sub-standard holiday and rota week pay Now you want to make this worse? GO AWAY!

This reads like a litany of p!ss-taking and people are right - 95% of this is asking for people to sign their own death warrants, how can they expect 120,000 people to vote for their own reductions in benefits? If the Union accepts most of this then they want tying to the stake.

Remember this isn't a company in trouble asking a favour along the lines of reduced pay temporarily to prevent redundancies as a short term fix! This is a very profitable company asking workers to sacrifice rights unnecessarily, for no other reason than to claim subsequently "We're 1.98% more efficient than 3 years ago..." or some other boardroom soundbite crap to please the major shareholders.

I cannot see anything other than a strike looming with these propositions.
So glad I am out of it as well,just hope the union does something to stop this crap.You poor posties. :shock:
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ScousePostie wrote:We were told management plan in our office this morning. None of this is to be implemented until AFTER issue of pensions is sorted.

- Cut the one remaining driver duty and put this onto current walks
- Cut Saturday attendance by 30 minutes and add 15 minutes onto Wednesday and 15 minutes onto Thursday (this is adding time onto the beginning of the day, not the end)
- Place two remaining HCT walks to shared van duty
- Staff will be asked to divide their duty into 11 sections. This is for lapsing and absorbing purposes.
- A full office revision of duties.

Will be interesting to hear views on these.

EDIT: should mention, all these are to be done in phases, not at the same time.
Interesting.

We are having a mini revision right now and very similar proposals to these have been put forward.
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Same at ours,add 20mins to Wednesday,10mins to Thursday (at least I think that was it...may be 30mins,I lose track) and cut time off Tuesday and Saturday (All changes are at the END of our duties)
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Sbutts8182 wrote:
rambo1 wrote:Most rurals already have start times in line with a finish time of 4pm. As far as I know, that's the latest they are allowed to plan a finish time.........for now.
We work 5:45-1500 mon tues sat and 5:45-1600 wed thur fri, on 4 day weeks. Deliveries of 6 hours.
so 9hrs 15mins mon tues and sat. and 10 hrs 15mins on wed, thur, and fri.... you will have 50 minutes breaks then.
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you must also all be on 4 days a week
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ScousePostie wrote:In one of the slides it says;

"Simplified 10-6 shift pay only for starting or finishing (lates/nights/ dawn)".

What does this mean?
Simplified night allowance?
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I really don't think a full office revision would be a bad idea in our office. We have staff coming in early, getting back early, going home early and then they wonder why their walks are a target for having work added to them. Meanwhile there's staff who come in on time, do the job to the letter, take their break and finish at their time are potentially looking at having their workload REDUCED because they're frequently leaving packets in even on supposed "light" days.
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DB Pension Scheme to close in April 2018

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I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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Have anything happens over last 9 days as I been away on vacation ?
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Darren Bent wrote:Have anything happens over last 9 days as I been away on vacation ?
Pension news, post before yours. DB Pension Scheme to close in April 2018
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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Darren Bent wrote:Have anything happens over last 9 days as I been away on vacation ?
Turkey has voted to give Erdogan unlimited powers and WW3 has begun.
Brighton have won promotion to the Premier league.
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clashcityrocker wrote:
Darren Bent wrote:Have anything happens over last 9 days as I been away on vacation ?
Turkey has voted to give Erdogan unlimited powers and WW3 has begun.
Brighton have won promotion to the Premier league.
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clashcityrocker wrote:
Darren Bent wrote:Have anything happens over last 9 days as I been away on vacation ?
Turkey has voted to give Erdogan unlimited powers and WW3 has begun.
Brighton have won promotion to the Premier league.

well seeing as WW3 has started at least we will not have to see Brighton play in the Premier League :Very Happy :nana
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clashcityrocker wrote:
Darren Bent wrote:Have anything happens over last 9 days as I been away on vacation ?
Turkey has voted to give Erdogan unlimited powers and WW3 has begun.
Brighton have won promotion to the Premier league.
In the interest of fairness I would like to add that it's Brighton and Hove Albion who won promotion to the premier league. Two towns like Dagenham and that other place.
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clashcityrocker wrote:
Darren Bent wrote:Have anything happens over last 9 days as I been away on vacation ?
Turkey has voted to give Erdogan unlimited powers and WW3 has begun.
Brighton have won promotion to the Premier league.
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