Getting there I'm only on page 30!! There seems to be a few sentences crossed out here and therek979aaa wrote:If you look at the agreement we all will be drivers soon as for reserves it says you will get the same treatment as full time staff!.piranha wrote:So will drivers get the D"D supp. and how on earth will reserves get a fair workload, arrrgh!
A BLOODY SHAFTING!.
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£20.60 D2D supplement!!
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piranha
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Re: £20.60 D2D supplement!!
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belle smith
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Re: £20.60 D2D supplement!!
I think the 2d2 / early attendance supplement will be more than £20.60 that will be one of the ammendmants.
When it appeared last night our friends in the know said that "theres no new money in this" when previously they have satetd "this will cost RM money!"
Oh btw anybody who needed the agreement to realise that this supplement would be pro rata for part timers really needs help joining the dots, I was talking about this last week with a colleague in the canteen.....it was so bloody obvious i didn't mention it here.....name me any supplement or bounus that isn't pro rata?
When it appeared last night our friends in the know said that "theres no new money in this" when previously they have satetd "this will cost RM money!"
Oh btw anybody who needed the agreement to realise that this supplement would be pro rata for part timers really needs help joining the dots, I was talking about this last week with a colleague in the canteen.....it was so bloody obvious i didn't mention it here.....name me any supplement or bounus that isn't pro rata?
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k979aaa
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Re: £20.60 D2D supplement!!
Then you maybe outsourced if this deal gets in JUST SAY NO!.piranha wrote:Getting there I'm only on page 30!! There seems to be a few sentences crossed out here and therek979aaa wrote:If you look at the agreement we all will be drivers soon as for reserves it says you will get the same treatment as full time staff!.piranha wrote:So will drivers get the D"D supp. and how on earth will reserves get a fair workload, arrrgh!
A BLOODY SHAFTING!.Oh and I can't drive
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spilie
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Re: £20.60 D2D supplement!!
belle the point is d2d is not a bonus, now can you tell me what the extra work full time staff will be doing in relation to d2d that part time staff wont?
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smokerjim
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Re: £20.60 D2D supplement!!
It's a supplement & all supplements are paid pro-rataspilie wrote:belle the point is d2d is not a bonus, now can you tell me what the extra work full time staff will be doing in relation to d2d that part time staff wont?
I don't suppose your mouth bleeds every 28 days, does it?
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belle smith
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Re: £20.60 D2D supplement!!
Yeah it's not a bounus, i'm just saying i wasn't in the least surprised that it's being paid pro rata.spilie wrote:belle the point is d2d is not a bonus, now can you tell me what the extra work full time staff will be doing in relation to d2d that part time staff wont?
F/timers won't be doing any more 2d2 work than P/timers, and that is unfair....but this supplement is also being paid inplace of Early attendance allowance how many P/timers currently recieve this? none. or would be likely to do so in the future even if made full time? again none. we lost this battle (for EAA) in 2007.
the discussion in the canteen i refferd to we were talking about F/timers with indoor only duties, who obviously don't do any 2d2s will receive the full amount (there are 3 in our office) whereas P/timers who do deliver them won't.
but i do think that now our expectations have been lowered we will find out that it's more £20.60....if it's significantly more it won't be a deal breaker for me. but i'll be voting no anyway purely on the abolishen of delivery spans. i'd rather not have an agreement than one with this in it!
i'm also less than convinced on performance standards, there are things i like in performance standards...looks like testing geo rute against the real enviorment, but it all seems a bit hazey
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old-postie
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Re: £20.60 D2D supplement!!
Not going to be £20.60
remember the taxman will take a bite out of this
( and ditto any lump sums)
old-postie
remember the taxman will take a bite out of this
( and ditto any lump sums)
old-postie
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pickaname
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Re: £20.60 D2D supplement!!
The leak of the agreement is a ploy to get us to accept a slightly better crap deal.
Its an age old tactic.
The CWU and RM knew we wouldnt accept their agreement so they leak the worst case scenario and hope we agree to the original.
Sneakey sven...
Its an age old tactic.
The CWU and RM knew we wouldnt accept their agreement so they leak the worst case scenario and hope we agree to the original.
Sneakey sven...
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eian687
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Re: £20.60 D2D supplement!!
lets hope so ,if not we will be back on the gatepickaname wrote:The leak of the agreement is a ploy to get us to accept a slightly better crap deal.
Its an age old tactic.
The CWU and RM knew we wouldnt accept their agreement so they leak the worst case scenario and hope we agree to the original.
Sneakey sven...
is the ballot still live ????
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guvenor
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Re: £20.60 D2D supplement!!
screw the ballot just do it
1 of our guys suspded last week over d2d payment
another threatened with suspension if not completing them sat
were f****d
1 of our guys suspded last week over d2d payment
another threatened with suspension if not completing them sat
were f****d
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k979aaa
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Re: £20.60 D2D supplement!!
If you read the deal it will say £ 52 million D2D and £40 million early shift pay £92 million they are dividing up the money this is not new money it is ours i say!. Fu(kem it is with out doubt the worst agreement in the history of this union!.
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fishtank
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Re: £20.60 D2D supplement!!
k979aaa wrote:If you read the deal it will say £ 52 million D2D and £40 million early shift pay £92 million they are dividing up the money this is not new money it is ours i say!. Fu(kem it is with out doubt the worst agreement in the history of this union!.
I Think it's probably the worst deal in the history of any union.
Less money and worse terms and conditions.
If Carlsberg made deals it would look f*ck all like this one.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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Cedar_Room
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Re: £20.60 D2D supplement!!
NewPostieUK wrote:In my office you sign to say you have done door to doors, and you claim payment. If you claim, without having done them, it's fraud. How do they get away with it in your office?el_cartero wrote:lol the floaters are all part time in my office .. naaaaaaaaa HAHAHA
and they get 18 a week at the moment for nto doing any
cant wait to see there faces when there forced to take 6+ pffttt hahahahaha FOR aa tenner HAAAAAAAAAA HAHAHAH
They probably dont.
He`s talking total bollox as per usual.
He actually seems to get a kick out of other peoples misery.
The whole situation is really quite tragic.
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viking1488
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Re: £20.60 D2D supplement!!
yes the ballot is still liveeian687 wrote:lets hope so ,if not we will be back on the gatepickaname wrote:The leak of the agreement is a ploy to get us to accept a slightly better crap deal.
Its an age old tactic.
The CWU and RM knew we wouldnt accept their agreement so they leak the worst case scenario and hope we agree to the original.
Sneakey sven...
is the ballot still live ????