Non drivers

[TopperGas]

But you won't be leaving a quarter on the frame.
You'll be working a longer day so you have time to do that extra quarter.

If I am taking 2 days mail out on these mega duties then I def will be leaving mail. Not a hope in hells chance will I be completing that no matter if it is a 5-6 hour delivery. Also Iike I said I will not be sprinting around, I will go at my reasonable pace doing everything by the book. If they want me to scan every single packet (like I just read today they wan to do) then great it means less time for me to complete my round. Work your time and go home only advice you need.

You should be scanning every packet now, otherwise how does the sending customer know if it's been delivered on loss in the post, if the other customer issues a DOR?

[A2B]

I think they mean the fact that every packet in the system is due to have a barcode

[TopperGas]

I think they mean the fact that every packet in the system is due to have a barcode

Not many don't know anyway, you have to scan virtually everything but letters

[A2B]

I think they mean the fact that every packet in the system is due to have a barcode

Not many don't know anyway, you have to scan virtually everything but letters

Yep fully aware, don't worry letters are coming, NHS first

[clashcityrocker]

Yep fully aware, don't worry letters are coming, NHS first

The NHS barcodes are for processing. There isn't a need to scan them on delivery as far as I can see.

[A2B]

Yep fully aware, don't worry letters are coming, NHS first

The NHS barcodes are for processing. There isn't a need to scan them on delivery as far as I can see.

I believe the same applies to the RFID tagged parcels but time will tell

[Perseus]

Getting back on track with the thread title, I just can't get on board with the fact it will be all doom and gloom for staff who don't drive for RM, certainly whilst there is still all items 5 days a week. There will be worse duties in the office, and I know it's not a race to the bottom, but hear me out.
It seems we are going full circle from the first idea of non driving duties having a Mon-Fri attendance, to CWU saying that isn't happening due to unfairness, to it actually being the only practical solution to The CWU/RM proposal to cut letters on a Saturday, then every other day during the week. Staff, in particular those who don't perform driving duties didn't ask for 1 of the potential 6 days a week they work to made redundant, remember that - it ain't THEIR fault. Mon to Fri with 3 days of letters on some of those days (90% call rate) but every weekend off? Put that option on the board and it will be over subscribed in seconds.
The worst duties to get in this new way of working will be ones where you have to drive, but expected to do the walking side of a shared van coupled with parcels only on a Saturday. I'd expect the parcel only routes (doing parcels and 1C for duty 1 and 2 one day, then 3 and 4 duty the next) will be allocated to senior staff who won't manage the physical side of the new way, add onto that ring fenced duties etc.

[A2B]

You will also have the situation in some offices where they do have plenty of drivers and it will be a shock to the system for some when they are sent out to deliver 2/3 days mail with a trolley

[Perseus]

You will also have the situation in some offices where they do have plenty of drivers and it will be a shock to the system for some when they are sent out to deliver 2/3 days mail with a trolley

The permanent parcels duties will be snapped up quickly, leaving the situation you describe a stark reality for many, with the bonus of having to work a lot of Saturdays.

[SpacePhoenix]

Yep fully aware, don't worry letters are coming, NHS first

The NHS barcodes are for processing. There isn't a need to scan them on delivery as far as I can see.

I believe the same applies to the RFID tagged parcels but time will tell

There's no RFID tagged parcels except maybe test items.

On the PDAs we set up a "Road" which is a number of yorks/sleeves to various offices. We scan the 2D barcode on the york header card and then the york barcode. That then "tags" that york for being for whatever destination office it is. As we scan parcels the PDA "tags" the items to the relevant york, based on the address encoded on the 2D barcode on the item. Not every item has a 2D barcode but I think it's when, not if they'll all eventually have a 2D barcode. When the york/sleeve is full we have to as part of the replacing a york scan the barcode of the new york and the old one is closed.

When they get to you in the DO or the next MC there are scanners which read the trio of RFID tags on the york (look at the non-barcode side of the plastic or metal plate that the york barcode is on). When that scanner reads the RFID tags, the system deems all items that were scanned to that york as having arrived at the DO. Don't know if that also shows on the tracking that customers can see.

Don't know if there's any RMTV vid that either Postman or TBT could add to this post.

The NHS letters if they are sorted separately are sorted to the DOs by an iLSM or IMP, they are sorted to office level only. If not then they get sorted to batches along with all the other mech mail by the iLSMs or IMPs and then sequenced on a CSS as normal. If they come under the DTS then they'll deferred as normal for up to 5 days when they automatically get released.

[ted_e_bear]

You will also have the situation in some offices where they do have plenty of drivers and it will be a shock to the system for some when they are sent out to deliver 2/3 days mail with a trolley

The permanent parcels duties will be snapped up quickly, leaving the situation you describe a stark reality for many, with the bonus of having to work a lot of Saturdays.

I thought the plan was for people to alternate between working as a pair on the all items days and on their own on the parcels/1c days, obviously applicable to drivers only, it seems that the suggested working pattern is being misinterpreted, I suppose you could get a pair who prefer to only work together so don't mind doing permanent all item days when applicable which would create the third person being able to drive on their own every day but what happens when someone is on holiday or day off and the cover person wants their fair share of driving and doesn't want to van share walking every week day?
We're already sinking to one of the current issues of "Bob" is allowed to do his duty on day off etc and it hasn't even started yet.

[oypostie]

The mail arrives sorted into the correct route 1c or 2c for the day. You only put into one frame and you are vertical prepping. You could be out of the door in an hour and a half and that includes having your break.

But if you're only prepping then there will be another days mail by the frame to put in (in the case of Monday and Tuesday two days mail) or is the mail centre supposed to hold the work back ????

[Barnacle]

The mail arrives sorted into the correct route 1c or 2c for the day. You only put into one frame and you are vertical prepping. You could be out of the door in an hour and a half and that includes having your break.

But if you're only prepping then there will be another days mail by the frame to put in (in the case of Monday and Tuesday two days mail) or is the mail centre supposed to hold the work back ????

This whole method is based around the MC holding mail back. Day 1 on a Monday you would receive 2c mail which has been held back since Friday. 1c is taken out everyday by the worker drone doing parcels across the 4 walks, plus the boxes etc. I doubt that 1c will be put in the frame because then you’d have to fish it out.
Next day, you put in the 2c again but it isn’t going out on your walk. You move to a different walk to deliver. Wednesday, your walk will now have two days 2c, you deliver that. And so it goes on until someone leaves, goes off sick, or there is a bulk mailing, or the MC send out unsorted trays etc, etc

[SpacePhoenix]

The mail arrives sorted into the correct route 1c or 2c for the day. You only put into one frame and you are vertical prepping. You could be out of the door in an hour and a half and that includes having your break.

But if you're only prepping then there will be another days mail by the frame to put in (in the case of Monday and Tuesday two days mail) or is the mail centre supposed to hold the work back ????

This whole method is based around the MC holding mail back. Day 1 on a Monday you would receive 2c mail which has been held back since Friday. 1c is taken out everyday by the worker drone doing parcels across the 4 walks, plus the boxes etc. I doubt that 1c will be put in the frame because then you’d have to fish it out.
Next day, you put in the 2c again but it isn’t going out on your walk. You move to a different walk to deliver. Wednesday, your walk will now have two days 2c, you deliver that. And so it goes on until someone leaves, goes off sick, or there is a bulk mailing, or the MC send out unsorted trays etc, etc

No mention about that in our MC. AFAIK we carry on sorting 1C and 2C together. There's no way that there'd be just 1C mech only, with there being so little 1C these days it won't be worth turning the machines on. What does this method do with DSA? Is that supposed to be delivered every day?

[Barnacle]

The mail arrives sorted into the correct route 1c or 2c for the day. You only put into one frame and you are vertical prepping. You could be out of the door in an hour and a half and that includes having your break.

But if you're only prepping then there will be another days mail by the frame to put in (in the case of Monday and Tuesday two days mail) or is the mail centre supposed to hold the work back ????

This whole method is based around the MC holding mail back. Day 1 on a Monday you would receive 2c mail which has been held back since Friday. 1c is taken out everyday by the worker drone doing parcels across the 4 walks, plus the boxes etc. I doubt that 1c will be put in the frame because then you’d have to fish it out.
Next day, you put in the 2c again but it isn’t going out on your walk. You move to a different walk to deliver. Wednesday, your walk will now have two days 2c, you deliver that. And so it goes on until someone leaves, goes off sick, or there is a bulk mailing, or the MC send out unsorted trays etc, etc

No mention about that in our MC. AFAIK we carry on sorting 1C and 2C together. There's no way that there'd be just 1C mech only, with there being so little 1C these days it won't be worth turning the machines on. What does this method do with DSA? Is that supposed to be delivered every day?

This is hilarious because we are a trial office, it hasn’t started yet, they have been saying mail will come from the MC separated in trays. Are you saying they are fibbing? What could possibly go wrong? Of course, not only is mail supposed to be split but it should also be sorted for vertical prep.

I can’t see this being a monumental failure AT ALL.