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Your £300 Lump Sum

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fishtank
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Re: Your £300 Lump Sum

Post by fishtank »

cloherty1976 wrote:I can't believe people are thinking about overtime after a strike.
Why not?
A strike involves losing money,If members are able to make some of that money back working overtime they are far more likely to continue to support the strike for far longer.I would rather members worked overtime than be forced to cross a picket line through financial pressure.
Royal Mail knows this which is why they often hold back on overtime during Industrial Action.

With a series of rolling strikes which is likely to be the case it's more to do with the political and psychological pressure through public perception that can be applied to Royal Mail rather than the actual logistical implications of a backlog in the system.

The alternative to members working overtime is often the use of agency staff.
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Son Of God
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Re: Your £300 Lump Sum

Post by Son Of God »

fishtank wrote:
cloherty1976 wrote:I can't believe people are thinking about overtime after a strike.
Why not?
A strike involves losing money,If members are able to make some of that money back working overtime they are far more likely to continue to support the strike for far longer.I would rather members worked overtime than be forced to cross a picket line through financial pressure.
Royal Mail knows this which is why they often hold back on overtime during Industrial Action.

With a series of rolling strikes which is likely to be the case it's more to do with the political and psychological pressure through public perception that can be applied to Royal Mail rather than the actual logistical implications of a backlog in the system.

The alternative to members working overtime is often the use of agency staff.
:Applause

Just make sure all time and overtime is done corretly... as RM say it should be! :)
cloherty1976
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Re: Your £300 Lump Sum

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fishtank wrote:
cloherty1976 wrote:I can't believe people are thinking about overtime after a strike.
Why not?
A strike involves losing money,If members are able to make some of that money back working overtime they are far more likely to continue to support the strike for far longer.I would rather members worked overtime than be forced to cross a picket line through financial pressure.
Royal Mail knows this which is why they often hold back on overtime during Industrial Action.

With a series of rolling strikes which is likely to be the case it's more to do with the political and psychological pressure through public perception that can be applied to Royal Mail rather than the actual logistical implications of a backlog in the system.

The alternative to members working overtime is often the use of agency staff.
Yes I understand what you say but if there is a strike which I still think they will come to a last minute agreement then I think it would be ugly. I think it is a waste of time this one day here and there strike tactic and was proven in the past. Look at the counters strike they could probably go out for another 10 strikes and nothing will happen. It sounds like you know what the union are planning to me or is it just more of the same. At our office it will be agency in and we are not allowed to cover runs on overtime on your days off. Another point it will be the same agency will not support the strike which the cwu will ask for going on previous.
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Re: Your £300 Lump Sum

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fishtank wrote:
Lincox wrote:Fish would this unjustifiable discipline also apply to Royal Mail in respect of refusal of overtime following strike action. Is this not treating a striker different from staff who have crossed the picket line? Your thoughts.
Overtime should be distributed via an aggregate system,that applies equally after a strike.
If a member is refused overtime because they took lawful industrial action they should ask for this in writing and contact their rep and/or branch immediately.
to be honest why would you strike one day then go in the following day to 2 days worth and work o/t to clear it for these clowns :arrrghhh , I will work my hours and that will be it , :wave
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Re: Your £300 Lump Sum

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cloherty1976 wrote:I can't believe people are thinking about overtime after a strike.
:Applause :Applause :Applause
cloherty1976
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Re: Your £300 Lump Sum

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Not often I get a clap on here..
fishtank
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Re: Your £300 Lump Sum

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worktotime wrote:to be honest why would you strike one day then go in the following day to 2 days worth and work o/t to clear it for these clowns :arrrghhh , I will work my hours and that will be it , :wave
That's fine if you can afford it.
What if you're a 24hr three day a week part-timer and you've just lost a third of your pay?
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cloherty1976
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Re: Your £300 Lump Sum

Post by cloherty1976 »

fishtank wrote:
worktotime wrote:to be honest why would you strike one day then go in the following day to 2 days worth and work o/t to clear it for these clowns :arrrghhh , I will work my hours and that will be it , :wave
That's fine if you can afford it.
What if you're a 24hr three day a week part-timer and you've just lost a third of your pay?
It's nice to see a union rep who takes there members,colleagues financial position into consideration :Applause
north london driver
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Re: Your £300 Lump Sum

Post by north london driver »

if the union would have not agreed in so many part-time duties instead of
keeping full-time duties we would not be in this state.
anyway after a strike there should be a overtime ban lets get the agreement we wont quicker.
worktotime
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Re: Your £300 Lump Sum

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fishtank wrote:
worktotime wrote:to be honest why would you strike one day then go in the following day to 2 days worth and work o/t to clear it for these clowns :arrrghhh , I will work my hours and that will be it , :wave
That's fine if you can afford it.
What if you're a 24hr three day a week part-timer and you've just lost a third of your pay?
I cant afford to strike at all , but I would sooner be skint than cross a picket line , so you lose a days pay to support the cwu then go in the next day and work till 5 pm delivering for 2 hours o/t , just don't see the point, whos the winner ?
Chelseablue
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Re: Your £300 Lump Sum

Post by Chelseablue »

Try cut down shopping bill for that week ,any luxurious like a stick of celery etc if you were planning on going to pictures that week of strikes ,get someone who's bin to see it to tell you all about it,,,see there's ways and means ,,,
Son Of God
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Re: Your £300 Lump Sum

Post by Son Of God »

All should be encouraged to do the job properly. If done so you'd book overtime on own duty and quite possibly cut off. Win, win :)
barbario
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Re: Your £300 Lump Sum

Post by barbario »

I just know that in my MC,we will be lucky to get any overtime after a strike.With the type of managers we have running our place it won't happen.
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Re: Your £300 Lump Sum

Post by Lincox »

Workotime & Cloherty
I am not saying that I will be looking for overtime, far from it. What I am putting over is the fact that a striker is stopped from doing overtime on his/her own round SHOULD HE/SHE WISH TO DO SO, but a non striker is allowed to clear up any backlog on that strikers round on overtime. That is Royal Mail actively discriminating against a member for taking part in a legally balloted industrial action, and the CWU should take action against the company wherever that takes place.
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Re: Your £300 Lump Sum

Post by dvbuk55 »

Lincox wrote:Workotime & Cloherty
I am not saying that I will be looking for overtime, far from it. What I am putting over is the fact that a striker is stopped from doing overtime on his/her own round SHOULD HE/SHE WISH TO DO SO, but a non striker is allowed to clear up any backlog on that strikers round on overtime. That is Royal Mail actively discriminating against a member for taking part in a legally balloted industrial action, and the CWU should take action against the company wherever that takes place.
What action would you suggest? Seeing as there would have been strike action to arrive at the "discrimination" there doesn't seem much they can do unless they pull out of the "joint management" scheme.