Do you come in before your start time?

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 03 Oct 2008, 20:14

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink!.

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 03 Oct 2008, 22:18

And you are right linkin for they don't know what bast*rds royalmail management can be!. And the new agenda of :cfo & :lfo that they will make the managers take the free work and hand out even more work!.

Post by **HTPostman** » 08 Oct 2008, 14:03

I've now started going in just 15minutes early.

Just a quick question-and linkin thanks for the advice-people who are calling us suckers etc, what time do you go in? Do you work full time hours? Are you able to take a break, have a walk round, get yourself a coffee etc?

Because even coming in 15 minutes early I don't have time to do that. And I can't work over because I have to be back home to let my sister in from school.

Not having a go it's just I see a lot of full timers at my work saying to us part timers why come in early, I rarely see part timers having a break or waiting by the front for the missorts. I already struggle to throw out an unfamiliar round+D2D's+sky mags+lightbulbs in an hour and a half and even though it seems trivial, that 15mins lets me get out almost on time.

Not my problem I know but do any of you have managers who say "tell you what my friend, give yourself an hours overtime tomorrow and come in early and get everything prepped on time." No course you haven't and neither have I. If I say I'll need a hand prepping it tomorrow, im told yes sure we'll get someone to do that, but surprise surprise next day everyone is busy.

Now, lets look at this scenario. I come in on time, I'm the last one to leave, half an hour after everyone else. Every day I put for overtime. Every day I have to see my manager and tell him I'm not prepped in time, here's x number of missorts. Every day, I have to leave a few parcels which aren't for my walk. My manager starts getting suspicious, im not helped out, eventually i'll be sacked or be given jobs like staying in every day and collecting the trays. Not what I want. I worked damn hard to get a job, I applied to over 25 places and RM was the only one to place to 1) give me an interview and 2) give me a job. So i'm not going to risk losing my job for the sake of 15 mins.

Post by **HTPostman** » 08 Oct 2008, 14:12

On another note i'm now getting in more OT because I no longer risk anything, I saw someone on here saying in 15 years he'd never doorstepped an item (including lightbulbs), thats the same for me now if no one is in I advise it. I'm not giving mgt any reason at all to sack me.

BELIAL · Post by **BELIAL** » 08 Oct 2008, 20:58

HTPostman wrote:I've now started going in just 15minutes early.

Just a quick question-and linkin thanks for the advice-people who are calling us suckers etc, what time do you go in? Do you work full time hours? Are you able to take a break, have a walk round, get yourself a coffee etc?

Because even coming in 15 minutes early I don't have time to do that. And I can't work over because I have to be back home to let my sister in from school.

Not having a go it's just I see a lot of full timers at my work saying to us part timers why come in early, I rarely see part timers having a break or waiting by the front for the missorts. I already struggle to throw out an unfamiliar round+D2D's+sky mags+lightbulbs in an hour and a half and even though it seems trivial, that 15mins lets me get out almost on time.

Not my problem I know but do any of you have managers who say "tell you what my friend, give yourself an hours overtime tomorrow and come in early and get everything prepped on time." No course you haven't and neither have I. If I say I'll need a hand prepping it tomorrow, im told yes sure we'll get someone to do that, but surprise surprise next day everyone is busy.

Now, lets look at this scenario. I come in on time, I'm the last one to leave, half an hour after everyone else. Every day I put for overtime. Every day I have to see my manager and tell him I'm not prepped in time, here's x number of missorts. Every day, I have to leave a few parcels which aren't for my walk. My manager starts getting suspicious, im not helped out, eventually i'll be sacked or be given jobs like staying in every day and collecting the trays. Not what I want. I worked damn hard to get a job, I applied to over 25 places and RM was the only one to place to 1) give me an interview and 2) give me a job. So i'm not going to risk losing my job for the sake of 15 mins.

B&H in action,the practical effects= 1 hr 15 mins per week free work x 130,000 = nice bonus

shelanda · Post by **shelanda** » 08 Oct 2008, 21:06

Oh how Royal Mail love people like you!

Sorry, do understand your problem sort of, but it must be an office problem so if you are doing 15 mins for nothing, what happens when you are off does he have to do 15 mins for nothing? The problem will not go away if it is not highlighted, surely you have a rep that can help!!

pocky20 · Post by **pocky20** » 15 Jan 2009, 22:42

i come in early so i can chill out get the old boots on have a smoke then head on in to my place of work if its ten mins or what ever i dont care cos its swings and round abouts realy i dont look at it as they are geting free work from me i just get on with it i think it sillly to think that way as i dont feel rm big wigs do lol. and i like my job so it must be cat to clock watch and walk in right on the bell.mm well thats what i think any way

shelanda · Post by **shelanda** » 17 Jan 2009, 18:56

When RM are looking for savings there are no such things as swings and roundabouts if you are giving them 10mins at the start of your duty they will see that as time they can save. It is a big problem for reps when trying to explain that there really is no time to save just free gifts from some of the staff making life very difficult for those that want to work their proper hours. Life may have been easier once but times they are a changing!!

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 17 Jan 2009, 19:07

as my branch put it:

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shelanda · Post by **shelanda** » 18 Jan 2009, 14:33

The facts! oh how I wish staff would read them and act, instead of just thinking it is not up to them let someone else do it!

pocky20 · Post by **pocky20** » 19 Jan 2009, 22:46

point takein never thought of it like that before just keen

toycel · Post by **toycel** » 15 Feb 2009, 16:15

just habit now, but i don't do it 4 free! i'm on so many different duties( no training) i don't want to be working till 4 in the avo! i would'nt manage to finish my round if i started at 8! so untill i'm pulled up for my docket i'll just carry on.

crooner1981 · Post by **crooner1981** » 10 Apr 2009, 08:47

yes I get in early about 6am for a 6:15 start just to clear round and actually be ready to prep at 6:15 really.

DGP1 · Post by **DGP1** » 10 Apr 2009, 12:09

I've got it down to such a fine art that I arrive at the very second I should start

but although I'm one of the first that's due to start I can never get a parking space because of all those who are in early

kwf166 · Post by **kwf166** » 11 Jun 2009, 20:44

I used to when I first started but now I don't if they want to pay me more, than yes I will come in earlier

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