Part timers to be FORCED to work afternoons

Phantom · Post by **Phantom** » 10 Aug 2020, 16:01

2yearpostie wrote:
Woody Guthrie wrote:
2yearpostie wrote:
Woody Guthrie wrote:It's not with the union's backing.
It might be with your rep's backing but that means nothing.
ive just heard the phonecall between the area rep and the area manager, it is with there backing, im pretty pissed off.
Still not the union.
Keep trying though.
Area rep is part of the union, its a national agreement, i dont know what else i can say.

Where is this a "national agreement"?

Woody Guthrie · Post by **Woody Guthrie** » 10 Aug 2020, 16:14

2yearpostie wrote:Area rep is part of the union, its a national agreement, i dont know what else i can say.

It's a national agreement that only you know about, one that isn't written down anywhere or has been subject to ratification by the PEC and the membership, one that is so top secret even the employer hasn't told anyone but you and the area rep?

That isn't how national agreements work.

It would be an unlawful national agreement for a kick off which would likely end up with mass constructive dismissal and unequal treatment claims against the employer and probably the union as well.

Two in a van back next week?

Tinoblade · Post by **Tinoblade** » 10 Aug 2020, 16:26

I've heard 2yearpostie is running for CEO, just heard the phone call in my office between one of the cleaning staff and her fella.
Proper national agreement

Rumple · Post by **Rumple** » 10 Aug 2020, 16:41

2yearpostie wrote:
Woody Guthrie wrote:It's not with the union's backing.
It might be with your rep's backing but that means nothing.
ive just heard the phonecall between the area rep and the area manager, it is with there backing, im pretty pissed off.

You heard a conversation between your area manager and area rep in your DO?
Was this a conference call and why was you allowed to hear this?
Maybe your telling the truth but I reserve my right to not believe you.

Cedar_Room · Post by **Cedar_Room** » 10 Aug 2020, 16:42

2yearpostie wrote:
Cedar_Room wrote: Some people might say you’re still learning the job yourself.

Its hardly rocket science, 'heres a letter,match it to the address on the street and pop it through the hole in the door, Hers a tracked parcel scan the barcode so you hear a beep, put it by the customers door and knock/ring bell, if they answer say thank you and wave, if they dont write a red card out with the details filled in pop it through the hole in the door and bring the parcel back to the office with you' How we get paid a tenner an hour for that still mystify's me.

Tell yourself that when you’re walking the streets on the afternoon shift. “Tenner an hour,tenner an hour”. Hahaha. I’ll leave you to it. From the other replies on this thread you have been well & truly rumbled

Acca Dacca · Post by **Acca Dacca** » 10 Aug 2020, 17:00

2yearpostie

What a sad sad little man you are

2yearpostie · Post by **2yearpostie** » 10 Aug 2020, 17:39

Fine believe me, dont believe me, i dont give that either way, all i have to gain is looking like a total muppet if im wrong.

Post by **SpacePhoenix** » 10 Aug 2020, 18:02

We all have to remember that in the current economic climate (many have lost their jobs and many more will probably lose their jobs once the furlough ends), we're all very easily replaceable

2yearpostie · Post by **2yearpostie** » 10 Aug 2020, 18:12

SpacePhoenix wrote:We all have to remember that in the current economic climate (many have lost their jobs and many more will probably lose their jobs once the furlough ends), we're all very easily replaceable

which is why i believe what i heard them discussing.

Woody Guthrie · Post by **Woody Guthrie** » 10 Aug 2020, 18:29

SpacePhoenix wrote:We all have to remember that in the current economic climate (many have lost their jobs and many more will probably lose their jobs once the furlough ends), we're all very easily replaceable

That's nonsense.
We're not any more "replaceable" than at any other time.
Royal Mail never has a shortage of candidates for posts, its problem is retention and the length of time and associated costs involved in recruitment and training.

The number of people on the dole is practically irrelevant whether it's 1 million or 3 million.

Our jobs are at risk but not through replacement, through reduction.

sindba · Post by **sindba** » 10 Aug 2020, 18:38

2yearpostie wrote:Fine believe me, dont believe me, i dont give that either way, all i have to gain is looking like a total muppet if im wrong.

How long have you "been" a workplace coach btw?

Post by **wacko74** » 10 Aug 2020, 18:50

2yearpostie wrote:
Cedar_Room wrote: Some people might say you’re still learning the job yourself.

Its hardly rocket science, 'heres a letter,match it to the address on the street and pop it through the hole in the door, Hers a tracked parcel scan the barcode so you hear a beep, put it by the customers door and knock/ring bell, if they answer say thank you and wave, if they dont write a red card out with the details filled in pop it through the hole in the door and bring the parcel back to the office with you' How we get paid a tenner an hour for that still mystify's me.

Here's a 70 mile rural with large parts of it so remote that even a satnav is useless, here's 5 different 70 mile rurals that you have to cover over the course of a week, sometimes having to do the whole route back to front in order to accommodate your 1pm Specials... admittedly not quite rocket science but certainly requiring a lot more ability to learn and adapt than your rather simplistic take on the job.

postieblueshirt · Post by **postieblueshirt** » 10 Aug 2020, 18:54

think you are in the wrong job my friend.your payed for your honesty and the fact that when it was a good job you got up at 4am to start at 5.your disrespecting the generations of postmen and women who pathed the way for your current wage.were not couriers not yet

Post by **greengiant** » 10 Aug 2020, 18:55

2yearpostie wrote:
Woody Guthrie wrote:
2yearpostie wrote:
Woody Guthrie wrote:It's not with the union's backing.
It might be with your rep's backing but that means nothing.
ive just heard the phonecall between the area rep and the area manager, it is with there backing, im pretty pissed off.
Still not the union.
Keep trying though.
Area rep is part of the union, its a national agreement, i dont know what else i can say.

Let us see a link to this national agreement?

Wigglypark · Post by **Wigglypark** » 10 Aug 2020, 18:58

2yearpostie wrote:
Cedar_Room wrote: Some people might say you’re still learning the job yourself.

Its hardly rocket science, 'heres a letter,match it to the address on the street and pop it through the hole in the door, Hers a tracked parcel scan the barcode so you hear a beep, put it by the customers door and knock/ring bell, if they answer say thank you and wave, if they dont write a red card out with the details filled in pop it through the hole in the door and bring the parcel back to the office with you' How we get paid a tenner an hour for that still mystify's me.

no it’s not rocket science but then neither is spelling , but you have not got to grips yet