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Revisions and evr

Postal workers discussion forum. Discuss the day to day life in a Blue Shirt.
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Post by richietns »

elteleltel wrote:Should be 36 hrs in Oct .
Only if it was financially viable, which it hasnt been.
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Post by wallan »

Woody Guthrie wrote:
So Terry's for gotten about the 4 pillars section on culture change , dignity , respect etc ?
Every agreement we've had has had a section on culture change, dignity, respect etc.

They would have been as well writing it in Klingon with invisible ink for all the f***ing good it's done.
This is where Area Reps should get more involved at Local Level
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Post by HTPostman »

9.4 million furloughed.
Benefit claimants surged from 1.3 million to 2.6 million.
26% of businesses plan to cut staff.
Every day thousands of jobs being lost.

I hope Dave and Terry and co secure as good a deal as they can but I really don’t care if my start time changes or I’m given an extra 50 calls or all my OT is cut, I just want to keep my job. I get the feeling whatever changes are coming our way won’t be liked but it really will be lump it or leave it.
The day is gonna come when we’re all gonna have to testify.

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Post by number one »

HTPostman wrote:9.4 million furloughed.
Benefit claimants surged from 1.3 million to 2.6 million.
26% of businesses plan to cut staff.
Every day thousands of jobs being lost.

I hope Dave and Terry and co secure as good a deal as they can but I really don’t care if my start time changes or I’m given an extra 50 calls or all my OT is cut, I just want to keep my job. I get the feeling whatever changes are coming our way won’t be liked but it really will be lump it or leave it.
I just love the negativity. Don’t forget those losing their jobs are those in areas where their work has disappeared. Ours has increased!
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Post by DGH »

Cucumber wrote:We are failing around 1/4 of walks every day. Good luck with a local revision.
A cynic might then suggest that, were the USO revised to 'be fit for the 21st century', 25% of walks might then be failed every day . . . 3 duties cover 4 walks, the walk that fails is rotated every day.

Given RM's recent propaganda video where they talked about other businesses needing to lay off staff and make big decisions, combined with that RM-CWU talks about EVRs, I wouldn't be surprised to see a swathe of OPG posts cut (presuming the USO is revised). Perhaps not 25% of course, but maybe shedding 10%.+.

Perhaps failure will be part of the 'new normal'.
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Post by norris9 »

number one wrote:
HTPostman wrote:9.4 million furloughed.
Benefit claimants surged from 1.3 million to 2.6 million.
26% of businesses plan to cut staff.
Every day thousands of jobs being lost.

I hope Dave and Terry and co secure as good a deal as they can but I really don’t care if my start time changes or I’m given an extra 50 calls or all my OT is cut, I just want to keep my job. I get the feeling whatever changes are coming our way won’t be liked but it really will be lump it or leave it.
I just love the negativity. Don’t forget those losing their jobs are those in areas where their work has disappeared. Ours has increased!

I was wondering if there are some mail centres out there who have barely anything to deliver on a daily basis. Not sure what would cause this. Maybe it's just areas with lots of older people who don't order much. Maybe it's the less populated areas.

I also wonder how many posties leave the company, dismissed, retired, passed away, each month. So if they are just not replacing people.....how many posties have left during the freeze on recruitment.

I'd assume that not replacing staff at our place would cause mayhem, all duties need to be covered as far as I can see. Post hasn't got that light to allow for less posties on the medium to busy days. There always seems to be at least 1 posties going off work with long term sickness. You'd have to perfectly revise the whole depot to have any chance of getting away with having less posties......

or completely change the way we work.....post only delivered on Tuesdays and Saturdays.....which isn't going to happen.
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Post by Woody Guthrie »

I'd assume that not replacing staff at our place would cause mayhem,
In normal circumstances a shortage of staff in an office caused by a recruitment freeze is managed by encouraging staff to work their day(s) off until a revision is implemented.

It will only cause mayhem if there are no takers.
Only dead fish follow the current
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Post by k979aaa »

Woody Guthrie wrote:
I'd assume that not replacing staff at our place would cause mayhem,
In normal circumstances a shortage of staff in an office caused by a recruitment freeze is managed by encouraging staff to work their day(s) off until a revision is implemented.

It will only cause mayhem if there are no takers.
Or by lapsing to show the job can be done and more.
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Post by Chupacabra74 »

Exactly this. It’s all a game of both parties with the same interest.
Woody Guthrie wrote:
can you tell me why if the talks are all hunky dory why the company are sending these so called ambassadors in to offices and bleating all there s**t, 3 day weeks , job losses etc :no no , and the CWU are aware of this
In order to claim victory you first have to show what defeat might look like.

The bleaker a picture Royal Mail paints the prettier a picture the union can paint when the deal is finally done so it's in the union's interest to allow the business to continue to scare the members as much as possible.
HTPostman
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Post by HTPostman »

number one wrote:
HTPostman wrote:9.4 million furloughed.
Benefit claimants surged from 1.3 million to 2.6 million.
26% of businesses plan to cut staff.
Every day thousands of jobs being lost.

I hope Dave and Terry and co secure as good a deal as they can but I really don’t care if my start time changes or I’m given an extra 50 calls or all my OT is cut, I just want to keep my job. I get the feeling whatever changes are coming our way won’t be liked but it really will be lump it or leave it.
I just love the negativity. Don’t forget those losing their jobs are those in areas where their work has disappeared. Ours has increased!
Not negative just being realistic. We are much busier but for whatever reason RM are playing the ‘we are struggling ‘ card and are cutting 2,000 management jobs. I just hope similar cuts aren’t made amongst our workforce.
The day is gonna come when we’re all gonna have to testify.

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Post by aiden01 »

HTPostman wrote:
number one wrote:
HTPostman wrote:9.4 million furloughed.
Benefit claimants surged from 1.3 million to 2.6 million.
26% of businesses plan to cut staff.
Every day thousands of jobs being lost.

I hope Dave and Terry and co secure as good a deal as they can but I really don’t care if my start time changes or I’m given an extra 50 calls or all my OT is cut, I just want to keep my job. I get the feeling whatever changes are coming our way won’t be liked but it really will be lump it or leave it.
I just love the negativity. Don’t forget those losing their jobs are those in areas where their work has disappeared. Ours has increased!
Not negative just being realistic. We are much busier but for whatever reason RM are playing the ‘we are struggling ‘ card and are cutting 2,000 management jobs. I just hope similar cuts aren’t made amongst our workforce.
2,000 management that obviously are not needed could probably cut a few thousand more an most people wont know the difference.
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Post by Route1 »

aiden01 wrote: 2,000 management that obviously are not needed could probably cut a few thousand more an most people wont know the difference.
We all know there are some managers that cant manage. Some that do nothing much. Even our manager was mocking there must be a manager somewhere tasking with writing a brief such as "how to wear a mask" etc. He showed us the sheet u was to present to us.