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leolion855
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Its not achievable.
Average 1 oversize per 5 minutes, so thats 12 an hour, x 5 hrs = 60 parcels per shift.
They want to collapse 1 in 6 so in my office os/lat driver would need to do 3 walks worth of parcels. On a busy day one walk would get 50 parcels so three would be 150 parcels. Therefore not possible.
Average 1 oversize per 5 minutes, so thats 12 an hour, x 5 hrs = 60 parcels per shift.
They want to collapse 1 in 6 so in my office os/lat driver would need to do 3 walks worth of parcels. On a busy day one walk would get 50 parcels so three would be 150 parcels. Therefore not possible.
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SpacePhoenix
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With the packet sorting machines (think it's going to eventually be 1 per MC with the largest MCs having 2), when they're sorting inward, is sorting down to walk level possible?
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deltaforce
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Except that it will be more like 20 parcels per hour rather than 12 and a longer delivery span than 5 hours.leolion855 wrote:Its not achievable.
Average 1 oversize per 5 minutes, so thats 12 an hour, x 5 hrs = 60 parcels per shift.
They want to collapse 1 in 6 so in my office os/lat driver would need to do 3 walks worth of parcels. On a busy day one walk would get 50 parcels so three would be 150 parcels. Therefore not possible.
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Woody Guthrie
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I think the plan is to bypass mail centres entirely with the large parcels and tracked apart from possibly breaking down 40 tonners into smaller trucks where DO access is an issue. Whether there would be any gain in walk sorting the large parcels is debatable, most likely an LAT duty will cover half a dozen duties in an area so it would be an area sort.SpacePhoenix wrote:With the packet sorting machines (think it's going to eventually be 1 per MC with the largest MCs having 2), when they're sorting inward, is sorting down to walk level possible?
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Woody Guthrie
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The default has always been 20 per hour delivering parcels, it's not inconceivable that you could deliver 150 in a full shift given that there will be multiple parcels for some drops. These parcel duties will be full-time probably 11-7 or 12-8.leolion855 wrote:Its not achievable.
Average 1 oversize per 5 minutes, so thats 12 an hour, x 5 hrs = 60 parcels per shift.
They want to collapse 1 in 6 so in my office os/lat driver would need to do 3 walks worth of parcels. On a busy day one walk would get 50 parcels so three would be 150 parcels. Therefore not possible.
Only dead fish follow the current
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leolion855
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Exactly, and in a rural area 20 an hour is not achievable without speeding.deltaforce wrote:Except that it will be more like 20 parcels per hour rather than 12 and a longer delivery span than 5 hours.leolion855 wrote:Its not achievable.
Average 1 oversize per 5 minutes, so thats 12 an hour, x 5 hrs = 60 parcels per shift.
They want to collapse 1 in 6 so in my office os/lat driver would need to do 3 walks worth of parcels. On a busy day one walk would get 50 parcels so three would be 150 parcels. Therefore not possible.
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leolion855
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Didnt think they were going to offer any more full time contracts? And besides 40hrs a week isnt full time anymore its 37 isnt it?Woody Guthrie wrote:The default has always been 20 per hour delivering parcels, it's not inconceivable that you could deliver 150 in a full shift given that there will be multiple parcels for some drops. These parcel duties will be full-time probably 11-7 or 12-8.leolion855 wrote:Its not achievable.
Average 1 oversize per 5 minutes, so thats 12 an hour, x 5 hrs = 60 parcels per shift.
They want to collapse 1 in 6 so in my office os/lat driver would need to do 3 walks worth of parcels. On a busy day one walk would get 50 parcels so three would be 150 parcels. Therefore not possible.
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rogersh
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As the SWW flightpath stalled we have not reached the second stop of the 37 hour week. So we now have two tier full-time contracts ,38 & 35 hrs, with RM honouring the 4 pillars agreement by recruiting existing & new employees on 35 hours full-time.leolion855 wrote:Didnt think they were going to offer any more full time contracts? And besides 40hrs a week isnt full time anymore its 37 isnt it?Woody Guthrie wrote:The default has always been 20 per hour delivering parcels, it's not inconceivable that you could deliver 150 in a full shift given that there will be multiple parcels for some drops. These parcel duties will be full-time probably 11-7 or 12-8.leolion855 wrote:Its not achievable.
Average 1 oversize per 5 minutes, so thats 12 an hour, x 5 hrs = 60 parcels per shift.
They want to collapse 1 in 6 so in my office os/lat driver would need to do 3 walks worth of parcels. On a busy day one walk would get 50 parcels so three would be 150 parcels. Therefore not possible.
I have a feeling we will be back on track following the current "mutual interest" talks. After all there was a shared vision & joint commitment to get to 35 hour working week by 2022!
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Woody Guthrie
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In answer to your first question they're not looking to offer more full-time positions, they will be looking for existing staff to transfer from delivery to parcels. If they can't get enough they may offer ltft staff different attendance patterns or mix and match, I would imagine it will be down to local resourcing agreements.leolion855 wrote:Didnt think they were going to offer any more full time contracts? And besides 40hrs a week isnt full time anymore its 37 isnt it?Woody Guthrie wrote:The default has always been 20 per hour delivering parcels, it's not inconceivable that you could deliver 150 in a full shift given that there will be multiple parcels for some drops. These parcel duties will be full-time probably 11-7 or 12-8.leolion855 wrote:Its not achievable.
Average 1 oversize per 5 minutes, so thats 12 an hour, x 5 hrs = 60 parcels per shift.
They want to collapse 1 in 6 so in my office os/lat driver would need to do 3 walks worth of parcels. On a busy day one walk would get 50 parcels so three would be 150 parcels. Therefore not possible.
In answer to your second point I was rounding it up roughly but I could work it out exactly based on 38 hrs if you like.
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gary1975
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Vans full of parcels in the dark is never going to work.
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Northbynorthwest
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I work in a mail centre which packet wise is still working as if in the 1950's. No modernisation there
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SpacePhoenix
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I don't think the packet sorting machines in MCs can handle large parcels anyway.Woody Guthrie wrote:I think the plan is to bypass mail centres entirely with the large parcels and tracked apart from possibly breaking down 40 tonners into smaller trucks where DO access is an issue. Whether there would be any gain in walk sorting the large parcels is debatable, most likely an LAT duty will cover half a dozen duties in an area so it would be an area sort.SpacePhoenix wrote:With the packet sorting machines (think it's going to eventually be 1 per MC with the largest MCs having 2), when they're sorting inward, is sorting down to walk level possible?
If a sleeve of Chinese/foreign is fed into a packet sorting machine, typically what % of the mail in that sleeve will get rejected by the machine?
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Woody Guthrie
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It works for DPD, it works for Yodel, it works for Amazon and DHL, Hermes and dozens of other couriers.gary1975 wrote:Vans full of parcels in the dark is never going to work.
Why wouldn't it work for Royal Mail?
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eastie
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Vauxhall Combi vansWoody Guthrie wrote:It works for DPD, it works for Yodel, it works for Amazon and DHL, Hermes and dozens of other couriers.gary1975 wrote:Vans full of parcels in the dark is never going to work.
Why wouldn't it work for Royal Mail?
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Grumpyoldmailman
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I see today that Amazon now have some of their own vans, Vauxhall Combo’s they are noteastie wrote:Vauxhall Combi vansWoody Guthrie wrote:It works for DPD, it works for Yodel, it works for Amazon and DHL, Hermes and dozens of other couriers.gary1975 wrote:Vans full of parcels in the dark is never going to work.
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