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Its not achievable.
Average 1 oversize per 5 minutes, so thats 12 an hour, x 5 hrs = 60 parcels per shift.

They want to collapse 1 in 6 so in my office os/lat driver would need to do 3 walks worth of parcels. On a busy day one walk would get 50 parcels so three would be 150 parcels. Therefore not possible.
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With the packet sorting machines (think it's going to eventually be 1 per MC with the largest MCs having 2), when they're sorting inward, is sorting down to walk level possible?
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leolion855 wrote:Its not achievable.
Average 1 oversize per 5 minutes, so thats 12 an hour, x 5 hrs = 60 parcels per shift.

They want to collapse 1 in 6 so in my office os/lat driver would need to do 3 walks worth of parcels. On a busy day one walk would get 50 parcels so three would be 150 parcels. Therefore not possible.
Except that it will be more like 20 parcels per hour rather than 12 and a longer delivery span than 5 hours.
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SpacePhoenix wrote:With the packet sorting machines (think it's going to eventually be 1 per MC with the largest MCs having 2), when they're sorting inward, is sorting down to walk level possible?
I think the plan is to bypass mail centres entirely with the large parcels and tracked apart from possibly breaking down 40 tonners into smaller trucks where DO access is an issue. Whether there would be any gain in walk sorting the large parcels is debatable, most likely an LAT duty will cover half a dozen duties in an area so it would be an area sort.
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leolion855 wrote:Its not achievable.
Average 1 oversize per 5 minutes, so thats 12 an hour, x 5 hrs = 60 parcels per shift.

They want to collapse 1 in 6 so in my office os/lat driver would need to do 3 walks worth of parcels. On a busy day one walk would get 50 parcels so three would be 150 parcels. Therefore not possible.
The default has always been 20 per hour delivering parcels, it's not inconceivable that you could deliver 150 in a full shift given that there will be multiple parcels for some drops. These parcel duties will be full-time probably 11-7 or 12-8.
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deltaforce wrote:
leolion855 wrote:Its not achievable.
Average 1 oversize per 5 minutes, so thats 12 an hour, x 5 hrs = 60 parcels per shift.

They want to collapse 1 in 6 so in my office os/lat driver would need to do 3 walks worth of parcels. On a busy day one walk would get 50 parcels so three would be 150 parcels. Therefore not possible.
Except that it will be more like 20 parcels per hour rather than 12 and a longer delivery span than 5 hours.
Exactly, and in a rural area 20 an hour is not achievable without speeding. :no no
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Woody Guthrie wrote:
leolion855 wrote:Its not achievable.
Average 1 oversize per 5 minutes, so thats 12 an hour, x 5 hrs = 60 parcels per shift.

They want to collapse 1 in 6 so in my office os/lat driver would need to do 3 walks worth of parcels. On a busy day one walk would get 50 parcels so three would be 150 parcels. Therefore not possible.
The default has always been 20 per hour delivering parcels, it's not inconceivable that you could deliver 150 in a full shift given that there will be multiple parcels for some drops. These parcel duties will be full-time probably 11-7 or 12-8.
Didnt think they were going to offer any more full time contracts? And besides 40hrs a week isnt full time anymore its 37 isnt it?
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Post by rogersh »

leolion855 wrote:
Woody Guthrie wrote:
leolion855 wrote:Its not achievable.
Average 1 oversize per 5 minutes, so thats 12 an hour, x 5 hrs = 60 parcels per shift.

They want to collapse 1 in 6 so in my office os/lat driver would need to do 3 walks worth of parcels. On a busy day one walk would get 50 parcels so three would be 150 parcels. Therefore not possible.
The default has always been 20 per hour delivering parcels, it's not inconceivable that you could deliver 150 in a full shift given that there will be multiple parcels for some drops. These parcel duties will be full-time probably 11-7 or 12-8.
Didnt think they were going to offer any more full time contracts? And besides 40hrs a week isnt full time anymore its 37 isnt it?
As the SWW flightpath stalled we have not reached the second stop of the 37 hour week. So we now have two tier full-time contracts ,38 & 35 hrs, with RM honouring the 4 pillars agreement by recruiting existing & new employees on 35 hours full-time.
I have a feeling we will be back on track following the current "mutual interest" talks. After all there was a shared vision & joint commitment to get to 35 hour working week by 2022!
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leolion855 wrote:
Woody Guthrie wrote:
leolion855 wrote:Its not achievable.
Average 1 oversize per 5 minutes, so thats 12 an hour, x 5 hrs = 60 parcels per shift.

They want to collapse 1 in 6 so in my office os/lat driver would need to do 3 walks worth of parcels. On a busy day one walk would get 50 parcels so three would be 150 parcels. Therefore not possible.
The default has always been 20 per hour delivering parcels, it's not inconceivable that you could deliver 150 in a full shift given that there will be multiple parcels for some drops. These parcel duties will be full-time probably 11-7 or 12-8.
Didnt think they were going to offer any more full time contracts? And besides 40hrs a week isnt full time anymore its 37 isnt it?
In answer to your first question they're not looking to offer more full-time positions, they will be looking for existing staff to transfer from delivery to parcels. If they can't get enough they may offer ltft staff different attendance patterns or mix and match, I would imagine it will be down to local resourcing agreements.

In answer to your second point I was rounding it up roughly but I could work it out exactly based on 38 hrs if you like.
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Vans full of parcels in the dark is never going to work.
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Post by Northbynorthwest »

I work in a mail centre which packet wise is still working as if in the 1950's. No modernisation there
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Woody Guthrie wrote:
SpacePhoenix wrote:With the packet sorting machines (think it's going to eventually be 1 per MC with the largest MCs having 2), when they're sorting inward, is sorting down to walk level possible?
I think the plan is to bypass mail centres entirely with the large parcels and tracked apart from possibly breaking down 40 tonners into smaller trucks where DO access is an issue. Whether there would be any gain in walk sorting the large parcels is debatable, most likely an LAT duty will cover half a dozen duties in an area so it would be an area sort.
I don't think the packet sorting machines in MCs can handle large parcels anyway.

If a sleeve of Chinese/foreign is fed into a packet sorting machine, typically what % of the mail in that sleeve will get rejected by the machine?
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Post by Woody Guthrie »

gary1975 wrote:Vans full of parcels in the dark is never going to work.
It works for DPD, it works for Yodel, it works for Amazon and DHL, Hermes and dozens of other couriers.

Why wouldn't it work for Royal Mail?
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Post by eastie »

Woody Guthrie wrote:
gary1975 wrote:Vans full of parcels in the dark is never going to work.
It works for DPD, it works for Yodel, it works for Amazon and DHL, Hermes and dozens of other couriers.

Why wouldn't it work for Royal Mail?
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Post by Grumpyoldmailman »

eastie wrote:
Woody Guthrie wrote:
gary1975 wrote:Vans full of parcels in the dark is never going to work.
It works for DPD, it works for Yodel, it works for Amazon and DHL, Hermes and dozens of other couriers.

Why wouldn't it work for Royal Mail?
Vauxhall Combi vans :Very Happy :Very Happy :Very Happy = bad back
I see today that Amazon now have some of their own vans, Vauxhall Combo’s they are not :Applause