shorter working week

[SpacePhoenix]

For 35hrs to have any chance of happening RM would need to employee a load of new staff in both MCs and DOs as there's probably not that many offices that clear regular with their existing hours and staffing (especially if you were to take casuals/agency into account - in MCs it's not unusual for casuals to outnumber RM staff on most shifts)

[number one]

For 35hrs to have any chance of happening RM would need to employee a load of new staff in both MCs and DOs as there's probably not that many offices that clear regular with their existing hours and staffing (especially if you were to take casuals/agency into account - in MCs it's not unusual for casuals to outnumber RM staff on most shifts)

You say that (I am currently 39hrs) but if I just did my round and no overtime I probably work about 32/33 hours now with early finishes

[NewPostieUK]

For 35hrs to have any chance of happening RM would need to employee a load of new staff in both MCs and DOs

I agree, but it is made clear in the agreement that drop has to be self-funding. We have to reduce the amount of work by new delivery methods and other savings. One wave, bench merging, multi-bundle, efficiency etc etc has to reduce the time needed to 37 hrs, then 36 then 35. It seems clear to me that this will never, ever happen. Losing paid breaks could help, but that's 'cheating'. It isn't being more efficient.

[Celgar]

For 35hrs to have any chance of happening RM would need to employee a load of new staff in both MCs and DOs

I agree, but it is made clear in the agreement that drop has to be self-funding. We have to reduce the amount of work by new delivery methods and other savings. One wave, bench merging, multi-bundle, efficiency etc etc has to reduce the time needed to 37 hrs, then 36 then 35. It seems clear to me that this will never, ever happen. Losing paid breaks could help, but that's 'cheating'. It isn't being more efficient.

I still can't truly get my head around the SWW and why the union pushed for it so much. Our office has been told we will get more hours put in if the SWW means all the work cannot be completed. You say time savings have to be found but the union is strongly resisting more automation in MCs which would save time supposedly

[number one]

For 35hrs to have any chance of happening RM would need to employee a load of new staff in both MCs and DOs

I agree, but it is made clear in the agreement that drop has to be self-funding. We have to reduce the amount of work by new delivery methods and other savings. One wave, bench merging, multi-bundle, efficiency etc etc has to reduce the time needed to 37 hrs, then 36 then 35. It seems clear to me that this will never, ever happen. Losing paid breaks could help, but that's 'cheating'. It isn't being more efficient.

I still can't truly get my head around the SWW and why the union pushed for it so much. Our office has been told we will get more hours put in if the SWW means all the work cannot be completed. You say time savings have to be found but the union is strongly resisting more automation in MCs which would save time supposedly

Work less hours for the same pay and you’re moaning about it?

[Celgar]

For 35hrs to have any chance of happening RM would need to employee a load of new staff in both MCs and DOs

I agree, but it is made clear in the agreement that drop has to be self-funding. We have to reduce the amount of work by new delivery methods and other savings. One wave, bench merging, multi-bundle, efficiency etc etc has to reduce the time needed to 37 hrs, then 36 then 35. It seems clear to me that this will never, ever happen. Losing paid breaks could help, but that's 'cheating'. It isn't being more efficient.

I still can't truly get my head around the SWW and why the union pushed for it so much. Our office has been told we will get more hours put in if the SWW means all the work cannot be completed. You say time savings have to be found but the union is strongly resisting more automation in MCs which would save time supposedly

Work less hours for the same pay and you’re moaning about it?

I'm not really moaning about it. In our office we will probably end up working the same hours as now and our pay is not meant to be dropping so its no change really. I think we are getting an extra hour of early IPS per day for the office to cover any shortfall from implementing the SWW. We don't have any of the part time staff that don't do sorting but just the delivery part either. So in effect the SWW does nothing for us.

[rambo1]

I am already on 35 hours, don't really make much difference, still working 40+ hours a week because the route is way to big to do in your contracted hours. And! Before someone says cut off early each day that would make my working days even worse as the mail would just be building up more and more each day.

Let it build up, its not your problem

exactly, the more it builds up, the more THEY have to cover.

Owt like our place they'd just take you off your walk and put some docket man on it.

[rambo1]

For 35hrs to have any chance of happening RM would need to employee a load of new staff in both MCs and DOs as there's probably not that many offices that clear regular with their existing hours and staffing (especially if you were to take casuals/agency into account - in MCs it's not unusual for casuals to outnumber RM staff on most shifts)

You say that (I am currently 39hrs) but if I just did my round and no overtime I probably work about 32/33 hours now with early finishes

Your office needs sorting out if you can make that time. How on earth does your Dom justify you finishing 5-6 hrs early a week???

[rambo1]

The membership got sold down the river with the latest paydeal.

When the 35 hour weeks comes in you'll be on less money (allowing for inflation and overall take home pay compared to a 39 hour week) and doing more physical outdoor work.

How is it that when full timers are on A/L or sick they'll be getting the same pay as they do now (basic) however, part timers will have had a pay rise? Doesn't seem particularly fair as losing an hr off the week is neither here nor there if you're not actually at work.

[NewPostieUK]

Our office has been told we will get more hours put in if the SWW means all the work cannot be completed.

For the first drop (to 38 hrs) maybe.