Weekly van checks

Post by **GT750rider** » 20 Sep 2018, 18:28

My wife is on collections in the afternoon. She usually has the pick of several vans, but half the time a lot of them are unroadworthy, so she fills in a fault docket (s). If the manager is about she gives said fault docket (s) to him.
The following afternoon the vans she's logged off the previous day are still in the yard unfixed. I've told her to point blank refuse to take a faulty van, and on this point at least, she listens.

crimson king · Post by **crimson king** » 21 Sep 2018, 19:20

Not a single bonnet is lifted in our yard, I kid you not

Closest I've ever seen to anyone doing a vehicle check is noticing a tyre is flat.

BarnsleyLackey · Post by **BarnsleyLackey** » 22 Sep 2018, 19:06

The vehicle should be checked daily. If it's checked on a Monday, and you have an accident on Wednesday, there's no comeback. All it takes is a dicky indicator light.

NWpostie · Post by **NWpostie** » 22 Sep 2018, 22:03

Its important for you to check the van as its you that's liable on the day, if you take it out while unroadworthy, its YOU that's goingbto cop the points and fines not the previous driver, he's got away with it.

The police or DVSA will only deal with what's in front of them and whoever driving not what happened yesterday.

Do your checks, I do a comprehensive weekly check every day just to cover my back, even if its not due.

Celgar · Post by **Celgar** » 23 Sep 2018, 10:23

NWpostie wrote:Its important for you to check the van as its you that's liable on the day, if you take it out while unroadworthy, its YOU that's goingbto cop the points and fines not the previous driver, he's got away with it.

The police or DVSA will only deal with what's in front of them and whoever driving not what happened yesterday.

Do your checks, I do a comprehensive weekly check every day just to cover my back, even if its not due.

You are also supposed to fill in the line for that day in the log book to say you have done the daily/weekly check BEFORE you leave the DO. If the plod look and this hasn't been written in you can supposedly be done for that as well.

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 23 Sep 2018, 14:14

Celgar wrote:
NWpostie wrote:Its important for you to check the van as its you that's liable on the day, if you take it out while unroadworthy, its YOU that's goingbto cop the points and fines not the previous driver, he's got away with it.

The police or DVSA will only deal with what's in front of them and whoever driving not what happened yesterday.

Do your checks, I do a comprehensive weekly check every day just to cover my back, even if its not due.
You are also supposed to fill in the line for that day in the log book to say you have done the daily/weekly check BEFORE you leave the DO. If the plod look and this hasn't been written in you can supposedly be done for that as well.

If I understand you correctly, the old bill won't charge you for not completing the log book, but the firm can be done (and then they'll do you I suppose) for failing to have a system in place, or not enforcing it enough, if they are unable to identify with any accuracy who the driver of a particular vehicle is on a particular day. In this case, it would be the manager who would be held responsible.

glass joe · Post by **glass joe** » 24 Sep 2018, 14:47

Rarely seen a van check since job and share been brought it, if you damage your van in our office unless the damage was OTT, it would not get reported. loads of vans have damage. my friend who works for asda food delivery has to do them every shift.

NWpostie · Post by **NWpostie** » 25 Sep 2018, 10:10

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
Celgar wrote:
NWpostie wrote:Its important for you to check the van as its you that's liable on the day, if you take it out while unroadworthy, its YOU that's goingbto cop the points and fines not the previous driver, he's got away with it.

The police or DVSA will only deal with what's in front of them and whoever driving not what happened yesterday.

Do your checks, I do a comprehensive weekly check every day just to cover my back, even if its not due.
You are also supposed to fill in the line for that day in the log book to say you have done the daily/weekly check BEFORE you leave the DO. If the plod look and this hasn't been written in you can supposedly be done for that as well.
If I understand you correctly, the old bill won't charge you for not completing the log book, but the firm can be done (and then they'll do you I suppose) for failing to have a system in place, or not enforcing it enough, if they are unable to identify with any accuracy who the driver of a particular vehicle is on a particular day. In this case, it would be the manager who would be held responsible.

Celgar.

For clarity. I do tick the boxes which says duty/daily\weekly as required AND the starting mileage before starting duty.

Just so you know and not assume.

Celgar · Post by **Celgar** » 27 Sep 2018, 19:55

No offence intended NWpostie. Going by the comments in this post and what I sometimes see in our office the van checks are quite often not done properly and occasionally not done at all. I always keep an eye on the basics on my van as it uses more oil than it should. It probably has an oil leak somewhere or maybe it just needs replacing. I was just pointing out something that not everyone might know about.

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 27 Sep 2018, 20:45

It takes two weeks just to service them now no wonder we are not allowed to log them off just a guy turns up next day with a van an a set of tie clips and WD40 an air compressor and bobs you uncle and it's safe to drive apparently somehow I don't think safety is paramount in the RM just fleet contracts and servicing the cars of people on my bundle and other fleets like British Gas Hertz and Europe Car. Sorry but have no confidence in them anymore! It takes SKODA UK three hour's to pick up drop off for MOT and service and they clean it inside and out and they pick up and drop off!