P/T to FT in agreement

Post by **Sugar** » 23 Mar 2018, 17:27

[quote="Dorset Plodder"Am I missing something here? Seniority has ALWAYS worked on the basis of what date you joined Royal Mail (the only exception being IF you had a break in service, then your Seniority starts from when you "Rejoined"). The Vacant duty should be advertised Internally, within your Delivery Office, and then you put your name down for it. The Most Senior Posties gets it!

I know where you're coming from as a lot of DOMs work on the principle of giving all the cushy duties to the "Chosen Few". That's because they're Twats (and half the time don't even know the correct procedures themselves) but it doesn't make it correct.

Are these "Individuals" within your DO part of the "Chosen Few"? If they are it's in there interest to feed you B.S and they're Twats as well!

If your Rep can't get an answer I suggest you get the phone number of the Area CWU Office and give them a ring (you'll often find it on a CWU Notice somewhere in the coffee room). If he's feeding you a load of B.S for whatever reason then I'm sure you can guess what I think he is.

Stick to your guns and fight this, IF you really want that duty. We had exactly the same problem and several duties had to advertised properly and the "Chosen Few" were kicked off them. DOMs cannot allocate Duties on the basis of Favouritism!

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Rep finally got a reply:

In any event the agreement currently out to ballot does not do away with seniority whatsoever, nor does it replace any aspect of the current resourcing agreements the union has in place, including the opportunity of individuals to apply for a full time duty when these become available.

And yes there are those in the office that are the Chosen Few getting away with blue murder and hijacking all the O/T who think they'll jump the queue for better contracts if this deal gets through.

Danelectro · Post by **Danelectro** » 24 Mar 2018, 20:39

Dorset Plodder wrote:. DOMs cannot allocate Duties on the basis of Favouritism!

Well apart from Work Place Coach and now the new selection process for Callers Office / Customer Service Point Duties where as from April you will have to be successful in an interview and if not selected you will be barred from applying for those duties no matter what your seniority is.

Dorset Plodder · Post by **Dorset Plodder** » 26 Mar 2018, 15:19

Danelectro wrote:
Dorset Plodder wrote:. DOMs cannot allocate Duties on the basis of Favouritism!
Well apart from Work Place Coach and now the new selection process for Callers Office / Customer Service Point Duties where as from April you will have to be successful in an interview and if not selected you will be barred from applying for those duties no matter what your seniority is.

Well that's going to throw up some interesting conversations. I've not heard, or read, of these new interviews but I'll have to look into it. It'll be interesting to hear the reasons why you're not going to get a duty and someone else is.

Having reread your post I think I've got the wrong end of the stick. I take it you mean the Callers Office & Workplace Coach Positions will be subject to interviews..... NOT Delivery duties?

Celgar · Post by **Celgar** » 26 Mar 2018, 16:47

If there is a walk free and available to be signed for based on seniority then that has to be advertised openly by the DOM. If it isn't then you are within your right to contact people higher up and get it sorted.

Danelectro · Post by **Danelectro** » 26 Mar 2018, 17:24

Celgar wrote:If there is a walk free and available to be signed for based on seniority then that has to be advertised openly by the DOM. If it isn't then you are within your right to contact people higher up and get it sorted.

LTB 166/18 - Joint Statement between Royal Mail and CWU on Professionalising the Customer Service Point (CSP)

Not according to this LTB and attachments which shows Callers Office duties will be subject to interview and only after being successful in the interview stage will your seniority come into effect.

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 26 Mar 2018, 18:00

Danelectro wrote:
Celgar wrote:If there is a walk free and available to be signed for based on seniority then that has to be advertised openly by the DOM. If it isn't then you are within your right to contact people higher up and get it sorted.
LTB 166/18 - Joint Statement between Royal Mail and CWU on Professionalising the Customer Service Point (CSP)

Not according to this LTB and attachments which shows Callers Office duties will be subject to interview and only after being successful in the interview stage will your seniority come into effect.

That's because its a selection by skills job. It has always been this way for the callers' office.

clashcityrocker · Post by **clashcityrocker** » 26 Mar 2018, 18:29

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
That's because its a selection by skills job. It has always been this way for the callers' office.

Not really. There was never any need for an interview if you were doing it on overtime or as part of your rehab.

Celgar · Post by **Celgar** » 26 Mar 2018, 19:21

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
Danelectro wrote:
Celgar wrote:If there is a walk free and available to be signed for based on seniority then that has to be advertised openly by the DOM. If it isn't then you are within your right to contact people higher up and get it sorted.
LTB 166/18 - Joint Statement between Royal Mail and CWU on Professionalising the Customer Service Point (CSP)

Not according to this LTB and attachments which shows Callers Office duties will be subject to interview and only after being successful in the interview stage will your seniority come into effect.
That's because its a selection by skills job. It has always been this way for the callers' office.

I was referring to signing for walks and not the callers office which is totally different and involves a lot of paperwork and computer inputting which isn't necessarily possible for anyone to just jump into.